[Bonetools] (Fwd) Re: nanterre publication

Wed Oct 14 19:35:38 CEST 2009

I did
 
> From: spa105 at york.ac.uk
> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:48:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] (Fwd) Re: nanterre publication
> 
> Not me.
> 
> S
> 
> > Are all of you getting Beth's messages? She says she is getting a message 
> > that her letters are bouncing - presumably 'off the mailing list'
> >
> >Alice
> >
> >
> >hi Alice,
> >
> >Did this go through? I keep getting a bounce message from the WBRG
> >group but then I wonder if I sent it and it did go through?? Can you
> >forward it on if not. I don't know what is wrong with it??
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >beth
> >
> >On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Elisabeth Ann Stone
> ><elisabethastone at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> hi Isabelle and all,
> >>
> >> I can also help with English and with translation problems from Spanish.
> >>
> >> I believe that a hard copy generally still has greater acceptance
> >> among scholars, so I think that is the best option, but we could
> >> explore ways of dually publishing online (perhaps free for members
> >> only or something along those lines would be acceptable to a
> >> publisher) and in hard copy??
> >>
> >> best wishes....
> >> Beth
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Alice Choyke <h13017cho at iif.hu> wrote:
> >>> Dear Vivian, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If the WBRG meeting in Paris was an 
> >>> independent meeting =
> >of interested
> >>> scholars I would, more or less, agree with you. A bi-lingiual volume 
> >>> wou=
> >ld
> >>> be only to the good. However, the WBRG is a working group of ICAZ. 
> >>> There=
> > has
> >>> been a unstated policy of all ICAZ working groups to publish 
> >>> everything submitted after the conference by participants, preferably 
> >>> in peer-revie=
> >wed
> >>> format and well-edited. The language, up to now, has been in English 
> >>> to insure widest possible dissemination of the information it contains. 
> >>> Checking back with members of the executive committee this 'open' and 
> >>> 'inclusive' policy has never before been an issue. =A0=A0=A0=A0 BAR 
> >>> asks only for a clean camera-ready manuscript and would=
> > not require
> >>> format change on Isabelle's part and it would produce hard-copy. Thus, 
> >>> i=
> >f
> >>> the editing of the papers is far advanced it would not require 
> >>> anything =
> >more
> >>> than to find someone who can convert word files into whatever 
> >>> electronic publishing language. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 To my mind (sorry to 
> >>> repeat myself) the only question=
> > is whether the
> >>> proceedings are published on the Nanterre server electronically or in 
> >>> ha=
> >rd
> >>> copy (BAR being the best option). I am happy to write to David 
> >>> Davidson =
> >at
> >>> BAR to make sure this is a real option although since the first and 
> >>> seco=
> >nd
> >>> proceedings were published by BAR I would be surprised if problems 
> >>> cropp=
> >ed
> >>> up. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I also suggest that in addition to 
> >>> complaining abo=
> >ut this or that in
> >>> the publication we offer Isabelle all help with the English editing 
> >>> whic=
> >h
> >>> will move things along much faster if carried out in an expeditious 
> >>> fash=
> >ion.
> >>> I raise my hand immediately to offer that help.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Alice
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Vivian Scheinsohn <scheinso at retina.ar>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear colleagues As Christian has mentioned we all know how hard and 
> >>>> difficult is to=A0e=
> >dit a
> >>>> book. So it is not astounding what happened with the Nanterre 
> >>>> publicati=
> >on
> >>>> since, from my own experience, publishers are driven by a logic that 
> >>>> is=
> > a
> >>>> world away from our own. I think we have to privilege the work 
> >>>> just=A0d=
> >one and
> >>>> that all the efforts come to a good end. As long as I have understood 
> >>>> t=
> >he
> >>>> situation,=A0the conditions that Isabelle has mentioned in her 
> >>>> mail=A0a=
> >re
> >>>> imposed by the publisher. But we also have to think in the editor 
> >>>> posit=
> >ion
> >>>> here. When one researcher decide to edit a volume she/he decided this 
> >>>> h=
> >aving
> >>>> all his/her circunstances in mind, since we are researchers and not 
> >>>> professional editors. We have many, many=A0others think to do. So if 
> >>>> we change=A0the circunstances, we are forcing=A0her/him to confront a 
> >>>> new publisher, probably a new evaluation and editing=A0processes and 
> >>>> so on.=
> > It is
> >>>> not fair =A0we asked to our colleagues for more time to invest in 
> >>>> this. Furthermore I think the prirority should be the papers be 
> >>>> published soo=
> >n,
> >>>> no wonder if they are published in hardcopy or as electronic 
> >>>> publicatio=
> >n.
> >>>> So I think we can: =A01) accept the conditions that the publishers 
> >>>> are imposing and discuss the selection criteria (which it is not ideal 
> >>>> but =
> >it is
> >>>> not bad from the view point of those who had just answered the 
> >>>> consult:=
> > the
> >>>> selected papers will be in a hardcopy ) or 2) to publish all the 
> >>>> papers=
> > in
> >>>> an electronic publication ( in the WBRG site or other),=A0and 
> >>>> take=A0pr=
> >ofit of
> >>>> all the=A0hard work just done.
> >>>> Best
> >>>>
> >>>> Dra. Vivian Scheinsohn
> >>>> INAPL/CONICET
> >>>> 3 de Febrero 1370
> >>>> 1426 Capital Federal
> >>>> E-mail: scheinso at retina.ar
> >>>> Dra. Vivian Scheinsohn
> >>>> INAPL/CONICET
> >>>> 3 de Febrero 1370
> >>>> 1426 Capital Federal
> >>>> E-mail: scheinso at retina.ar
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Elisabeth A. Stone
> >> Department of Anthropology, Graduate Program in Archaeology
> >> MSC01-1040, Anthropology 1
> >> University of New Mexico
> >> Albuquerque, NM 87131
> >>
> >> elisabethastone at gmail.com
> >> (m) 201.344.2229 =A0(o) 505.277.8301
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--=20
> >Elisabeth A. Stone
> >Department of Anthropology, Graduate Program in Archaeology
> >MSC01-1040, Anthropology 1
> >University of New Mexico
> >Albuquerque, NM 87131
> >
> >elisabethastone at gmail.com
> >(m) 201.344.2229 (o) 505.277.8301
> >
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