[Bonetools] (Fwd) Re: nanterre publication

Fri Oct 9 00:48:07 CEST 2009

Not me.

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> Are all of you getting Beth's messages? She says she is getting a message 
> that her letters are bouncing - presumably 'off the mailing list'
>
>Alice
>
>
>hi Alice,
>
>Did this go through?  I keep getting a bounce message from the WBRG
>group but then I wonder if I sent it and it did go through??  Can you
>forward it on if not.  I don't know what is wrong with it??
>
>Thanks!
>
>beth
>
>On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Elisabeth Ann Stone
><elisabethastone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi Isabelle and all,
>>
>> I can also help with English and with translation problems from Spanish.
>>
>> I believe that a hard copy generally still has greater acceptance
>> among scholars, so I think that is the best option, but we could
>> explore ways of dually publishing online (perhaps free for members
>> only or something along those lines would be acceptable to a
>> publisher) and in hard copy??
>>
>> best wishes....
>> Beth
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Alice Choyke <h13017cho at iif.hu> wrote:
>>> Dear Vivian, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If the WBRG meeting in Paris was an 
>>> independent meeting =
>of interested
>>> scholars I would, more or less, agree with you. A bi-lingiual volume 
>>> wou=
>ld
>>> be only to the good. However, the WBRG is a working group of ICAZ. 
>>> There=
> has
>>> been a unstated policy of all ICAZ working groups to publish 
>>> everything submitted after the conference by participants, preferably 
>>> in peer-revie=
>wed
>>> format and well-edited. The language, up to now, has been in English 
>>> to insure widest possible dissemination of the information it contains. 
>>> Checking back with members of the executive committee this 'open' and 
>>> 'inclusive' policy has never before been an issue. =A0=A0=A0=A0 BAR 
>>> asks only for a clean camera-ready manuscript and would=
> not require
>>> format change on Isabelle's part and it would produce hard-copy. Thus, 
>>> i=
>f
>>> the editing of the papers is far advanced it would not require 
>>> anything =
>more
>>> than to find someone who can convert word files into whatever 
>>> electronic publishing language. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 To my mind (sorry to 
>>> repeat myself) the only question=
> is whether the
>>> proceedings are published on the Nanterre server electronically or in 
>>> ha=
>rd
>>> copy (BAR being the best option). I am happy to write to David 
>>> Davidson =
>at
>>> BAR to make sure this is a real option although since the first and 
>>> seco=
>nd
>>> proceedings were published by BAR I would be surprised if problems 
>>> cropp=
>ed
>>> up. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I also suggest that in addition to 
>>> complaining abo=
>ut this or that in
>>> the publication we offer Isabelle all help with the English editing 
>>> whic=
>h
>>> will move things along much faster if carried out in an expeditious 
>>> fash=
>ion.
>>> I raise my hand immediately to offer that help.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Alice
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Vivian Scheinsohn <scheinso at retina.ar>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues As Christian has mentioned we all know how hard and 
>>>> difficult is to=A0e=
>dit a
>>>> book. So it is not astounding what happened with the Nanterre 
>>>> publicati=
>on
>>>> since, from my own experience, publishers are driven by a logic that 
>>>> is=
> a
>>>> world away from our own. I think we have to privilege the work 
>>>> just=A0d=
>one and
>>>> that all the efforts come to a good end. As long as I have understood 
>>>> t=
>he
>>>> situation,=A0the conditions that Isabelle has mentioned in her 
>>>> mail=A0a=
>re
>>>> imposed by the publisher. But we also have to think in the editor 
>>>> posit=
>ion
>>>> here. When one researcher decide to edit a volume she/he decided this 
>>>> h=
>aving
>>>> all his/her circunstances in mind, since we are researchers and not 
>>>> professional editors. We have many, many=A0others think to do. So if 
>>>> we change=A0the circunstances, we are forcing=A0her/him to confront a 
>>>> new publisher, probably a new evaluation and editing=A0processes and 
>>>> so on.=
> It is
>>>> not fair =A0we asked to our colleagues for more time to invest in 
>>>> this. Furthermore I think the prirority should be the papers be 
>>>> published soo=
>n,
>>>> no wonder if they are published in hardcopy or as electronic 
>>>> publicatio=
>n.
>>>> So I think we can: =A01) accept the conditions that the publishers 
>>>> are imposing and discuss the selection criteria (which it is not ideal 
>>>> but =
>it is
>>>> not bad from the view point of those who had just answered the 
>>>> consult:=
> the
>>>> selected papers will be in a hardcopy ) or 2) to publish all the 
>>>> papers=
> in
>>>> an electronic publication ( in the WBRG site or other),=A0and 
>>>> take=A0pr=
>ofit of
>>>> all the=A0hard work just done.
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Dra. Vivian Scheinsohn
>>>> INAPL/CONICET
>>>> 3 de Febrero 1370
>>>> 1426 Capital Federal
>>>> E-mail: scheinso at retina.ar
>>>> Dra. Vivian Scheinsohn
>>>> INAPL/CONICET
>>>> 3 de Febrero 1370
>>>> 1426 Capital Federal
>>>> E-mail: scheinso at retina.ar
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Elisabeth A. Stone
>> Department of Anthropology, Graduate Program in Archaeology
>> MSC01-1040, Anthropology 1
>> University of New Mexico
>> Albuquerque, NM 87131
>>
>> elisabethastone at gmail.com
>> (m) 201.344.2229 =A0(o) 505.277.8301
>>
>
>
>
>--=20
>Elisabeth A. Stone
>Department of Anthropology, Graduate Program in Archaeology
>MSC01-1040, Anthropology 1
>University of New Mexico
>Albuquerque, NM 87131
>
>elisabethastone at gmail.com
>(m) 201.344.2229  (o) 505.277.8301
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