[Bonetools] (Fwd) Re: nanterre publication

Sun Oct 11 14:49:10 CEST 2009

I got Elisabeths message without problems.

Best

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Am 08.10.2009 um 23:44 schrieb h13017cho at helka.iif.hu:

> Are all of you getting Beth's messages? She says she is getting a  
> message that her letters
> are bouncing - presumably 'off the mailing list'
>
> Alice
>
>
> hi Alice,
>
> Did this go through?  I keep getting a bounce message from the WBRG
> group but then I wonder if I sent it and it did go through??  Can you
> forward it on if not.  I don't know what is wrong with it??
>
> Thanks!
>
> beth
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Elisabeth Ann Stone
> <elisabethastone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi Isabelle and all,
>>
>> I can also help with English and with translation problems from  
>> Spanish.
>>
>> I believe that a hard copy generally still has greater acceptance
>> among scholars, so I think that is the best option, but we could
>> explore ways of dually publishing online (perhaps free for members
>> only or something along those lines would be acceptable to a
>> publisher) and in hard copy??
>>
>> best wishes....
>> Beth
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Alice Choyke <h13017cho at iif.hu>  
>> wrote:
>>> Dear Vivian,
>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If the WBRG meeting in Paris was an independent  
>>> meeting =
> of interested
>>> scholars I would, more or less, agree with you. A bi-lingiual  
>>> volume wou=
> ld
>>> be only to the good. However, the WBRG is a working group of  
>>> ICAZ. There=
>  has
>>> been a unstated policy of all ICAZ working groups to publish  
>>> everything
>>> submitted after the conference by participants, preferably in  
>>> peer-revie=
> wed
>>> format and well-edited. The language, up to now, has been in  
>>> English to
>>> insure widest possible dissemination of the information it contains.
>>> Checking back with members of the executive committee this 'open'  
>>> and
>>> 'inclusive' policy has never before been an issue.
>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0 BAR asks only for a clean camera-ready manuscript  
>>> and would=
>  not require
>>> format change on Isabelle's part and it would produce hard-copy.  
>>> Thus, i=
> f
>>> the editing of the papers is far advanced it would not require  
>>> anything =
> more
>>> than to find someone who can convert word files into whatever  
>>> electronic
>>> publishing language.
>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 To my mind (sorry to repeat myself) the only  
>>> question=
>  is whether the
>>> proceedings are published on the Nanterre server electronically  
>>> or in ha=
> rd
>>> copy (BAR being the best option). I am happy to write to David  
>>> Davidson =
> at
>>> BAR to make sure this is a real option although since the first  
>>> and seco=
> nd
>>> proceedings were published by BAR I would be surprised if  
>>> problems cropp=
> ed
>>> up.
>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I also suggest that in addition to  
>>> complaining abo=
> ut this or that in
>>> the publication we offer Isabelle all help with the English  
>>> editing whic=
> h
>>> will move things along much faster if carried out in an  
>>> expeditious fash=
> ion.
>>> I raise my hand immediately to offer that help.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Alice
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Vivian Scheinsohn  
>>> <scheinso at retina.ar>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues
>>>> As Christian has mentioned we all know how hard and difficult is  
>>>> to=A0e=
> dit a
>>>> book. So it is not astounding what happened with the Nanterre  
>>>> publicati=
> on
>>>> since, from my own experience, publishers are driven by a logic  
>>>> that is=
>  a
>>>> world away from our own. I think we have to privilege the work  
>>>> just=A0d=
> one and
>>>> that all the efforts come to a good end. As long as I have  
>>>> understood t=
> he
>>>> situation,=A0the conditions that Isabelle has mentioned in her  
>>>> mail=A0a=
> re
>>>> imposed by the publisher. But we also have to think in the  
>>>> editor posit=
> ion
>>>> here. When one researcher decide to edit a volume she/he decided  
>>>> this h=
> aving
>>>> all his/her circunstances in mind, since we are researchers and not
>>>> professional editors. We have many, many=A0others think to do.  
>>>> So if we
>>>> change=A0the circunstances, we are forcing=A0her/him to confront  
>>>> a new
>>>> publisher, probably a new evaluation and editing=A0processes and  
>>>> so on.=
>  It is
>>>> not fair =A0we asked to our colleagues for more time to invest  
>>>> in this.
>>>> Furthermore I think the prirority should be the papers be  
>>>> published soo=
> n,
>>>> no wonder if they are published in hardcopy or as electronic  
>>>> publicatio=
> n.
>>>> So I think we can: =A01) accept the conditions that the  
>>>> publishers are
>>>> imposing and discuss the selection criteria (which it is not  
>>>> ideal but =
> it is
>>>> not bad from the view point of those who had just answered the  
>>>> consult:=
>  the
>>>> selected papers will be in a hardcopy ) or 2) to publish all the  
>>>> papers=
>  in
>>>> an electronic publication ( in the WBRG site or other),=A0and  
>>>> take=A0pr=
> ofit of
>>>> all the=A0hard work just done.
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Dra. Vivian Scheinsohn
>>>> INAPL/CONICET
>>>> 3 de Febrero 1370
>>>> 1426 Capital Federal
>>>> E-mail: scheinso at retina.ar
>>>> Dra. Vivian Scheinsohn
>>>> INAPL/CONICET
>>>> 3 de Febrero 1370
>>>> 1426 Capital Federal
>>>> E-mail: scheinso at retina.ar
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Elisabeth A. Stone
>> Department of Anthropology, Graduate Program in Archaeology
>> MSC01-1040, Anthropology 1
>> University of New Mexico
>> Albuquerque, NM 87131
>>
>> elisabethastone at gmail.com
>> (m) 201.344.2229 =A0(o) 505.277.8301
>>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Elisabeth A. Stone
> Department of Anthropology, Graduate Program in Archaeology
> MSC01-1040, Anthropology 1
> University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque, NM 87131
>
> elisabethastone at gmail.com
> (m) 201.344.2229  (o) 505.277.8301
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