[Bonetools] antler whistles?

[Alice Choyke]

When my audience is not a bunch of zooarchaeologists I simply say sheep and/or goats. ovicaprine is too misleading.

Best,
Alice



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>>> Salima Ikram <salimaikram at gmail.com> 2/13/2016 10:55 PM >>>
True that they should be called caprines, but for the lay reader could one not use the term ovicaprine not as a biological term, but as more of a descriptive noun?
sheep are always getting sidelined.


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On 13 Feb 2016, at 22:42, Mikolaj Lisowski <mlisowski1 at sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:


Dear colleagues


Moreover, the term 'ovicaprine' itself is biologically incorrect, since both sheep and goats are part of a sub-family caprinae, and should be called caprines. 


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On 12 February 2016 at 18:01, Alice Choyke <choyke at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Francoois,
    Not only does 'ovicaprine' antler sound strange it is a biological impossibility! Or these are the strangest sheep and goats that ever lived.


Best,
Alice


On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM, François Poplin <poplin at mnhn.fr> wrote:

Dear colleague,

"oovicaprin antlers" sounds strange...
(oo- = egg, and so forth)

Dis you try to produce sound with ?

I have at home.. j'ai à la maison une poignée d'ombrelle très XIXe siècle taillée dans une dague de cerf (le premier "bois", simple), dont la partie proximale est travaillée en sifflet comme cela.

Bien à vous.


Le 01/01/2016 04:53, Sonja Vukovic a écrit :

Dear colleagues, 


Thank you for your comments.


Happy New year.


Sonja.


On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Sonja Vukovic <sonja.vukovic at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear colleagues, 


By analyzing animal bones from the Roman city Viminacium I came across several interesting antler objects that my colleague and I argue that were used as whistles. While I was searching through papers, I have found barely several similar objects (and majority of them were not determined as being whistles). I have also contacted some of you for an advice on the subject. So, I am now asking entire group - do you know any published similar antler whistles (not only Roman)?! I am attaching a photo of one of them. 


Thank you,


best wishes, Marry Christmas & Happy New Year,


Sonja.



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