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<DIV>When my audience is not a bunch of zooarchaeologists I simply say sheep and/or goats. ovicaprine is too misleading.</DIV>
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<DIV>sheep are always getting sidelined.</DIV>
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<DIV>On 13 Feb 2016, at 22:42, Mikolaj Lisowski <<A href="mailto:mlisowski1@sheffield.ac.uk">mlisowski1@sheffield.ac.uk</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV>Moreover, the term 'ovicaprine' itself is biologically incorrect, since both sheep and goats are part of a sub-family <I>caprinae, </I>and should be called caprines. </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 12 February 2016 at 18:01, Alice Choyke <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:choyke@gmail.com" target=_blank>choyke@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV> Not only does 'ovicaprine' antler sound strange it is a biological impossibility! Or these are the strangest sheep and goats that ever lived.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM, François Poplin <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr" target=_blank>poplin@mnhn.fr</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Dear colleague,<BR><BR>"oovicaprin antlers" sounds strange...<BR>(oo- = egg, and so forth)<BR><BR>Dis you try to produce sound with ?<BR><BR>I have at home.. j'ai à la maison une poignée d'ombrelle très XIXe siècle taillée dans une dague de cerf (le premier "bois", simple), dont la partie proximale est travaillée en sifflet comme cela.<BR><BR>Bien à vous.
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<DIV>Thank you for your comments.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Sonja Vukovic <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:sonja.vukovic@gmail.com" target=_blank>sonja.vukovic@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>By analyzing animal bones from the Roman city Viminacium I came across several interesting antler objects that my colleague and I argue that were used as whistles. While I was searching through papers, I have found barely several similar objects (and majority of them were not determined as being whistles). I have also contacted some of you for an advice on the subject. So, I am now asking entire group - do you know any published similar antler whistles (not only Roman)?! I am attaching a photo of one of them. </DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you,</DIV>
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<DIV>best wishes, Marry Christmas & Happy New Year,</DIV>
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