[Bonetools] antler whistles?

Salima Ikram salimaikram at gmail.com
Sat Feb 13 22:55:24 CET 2016


True that they should be called caprines, but for the lay reader could one not use the term ovicaprine not as a biological term, but as more of a descriptive noun?
sheep are always getting sidelined.

Salima Ikram
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> On 13 Feb 2016, at 22:42, Mikolaj Lisowski <mlisowski1 at sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues
> 
> Moreover, the term 'ovicaprine' itself is biologically incorrect, since both sheep and goats are part of a sub-family caprinae, and should be called caprines. 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Mikolaj Lisowski
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> On 12 February 2016 at 18:01, Alice Choyke <choyke at gmail.com <mailto:choyke at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear Francoois,
>     Not only does 'ovicaprine' antler sound strange it is a biological impossibility! Or these are the strangest sheep and goats that ever lived.
> 
> Best,
> Alice
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM, François Poplin <poplin at mnhn.fr <mailto:poplin at mnhn.fr>> wrote:
> Dear colleague,
> 
> "oovicaprin antlers" sounds strange...
> (oo- = egg, and so forth)
> 
> Dis you try to produce sound with ?
> 
> I have at home.. j'ai à la maison une poignée d'ombrelle très XIXe siècle taillée dans une dague de cerf (le premier "bois", simple), dont la partie proximale est travaillée en sifflet comme cela.
> 
> Bien à vous.
> 
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> Le 01/01/2016 04:53, Sonja Vukovic a écrit :
>> Dear colleagues,
>> 
>> Thank you for your comments.
>> 
>> Happy New year.
>> 
>> Sonja.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Sonja Vukovic <sonja.vukovic at gmail.com <mailto:sonja.vukovic at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>> 
>> By analyzing animal bones from the Roman city Viminacium I came across several interesting antler objects that my colleague and I argue that were used as whistles. While I was searching through papers, I have found barely several similar objects (and majority of them were not determined as being whistles). I have also contacted some of you for an advice on the subject. So, I am now asking entire group - do you know any published similar antler whistles (not only Roman)?! I am attaching a photo of one of them. 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> best wishes, Marry Christmas & Happy New Year,
>> 
>> Sonja.
>> 
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