<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">True that they should be called caprines, but for the lay reader could one not use the term ovicaprine not as a biological term, but as more of a descriptive noun?<div class="">sheep are always getting sidelined.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 13 Feb 2016, at 22:42, Mikolaj Lisowski <<a href="mailto:mlisowski1@sheffield.ac.uk" class="">mlisowski1@sheffield.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Dear colleagues</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Moreover, the term 'ovicaprine' itself is biologically incorrect, since both sheep and goats are part of a sub-family <i class="">caprinae, </i>and should be called caprines. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best wishes</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt" class=""><font class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><i class="">Mikolaj Lisowski</i></b></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" class=""></span></font></p><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">PhD Candidate</font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">Department of Archaeology</font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">University of Sheffield</font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">Northgate House<br class="">West Street<br class=""></font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">Sheffield </font></i><i class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font class="">S1 4ET, </font></span><span style="font-family:Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><font class="">UK</font></span></font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">Other address: </span></font></i><i style="color:rgb(136,136,136)" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" class=""><font size="1" class=""><a href="mailto:Mikolaj.Lisowski@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">Mikolaj.Lisowski@gmail.com</a></font></span></span></i></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/people/phds/mikolaj-lisowski" target="_blank" class=""><font size="1" class=""><i class="">My academic homepage</i></font></a></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class=""><a href="https://sheffield.academia.edu/MikLisowski" target="_blank" class="">My profile on Academia.edu</a></font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class=""><font class="">Find out about our</font><font color="#1155cc" class=""> </font><a href="http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/research/zooarchaeology-lab/short-course" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" class="">Zooarchaeology Short Course</a></font></i></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 February 2016 at 18:01, Alice Choyke <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:choyke@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">choyke@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Francoois,<div class=""> Not only does 'ovicaprine' antler sound strange it is a biological impossibility! Or these are the strangest sheep and goats that ever lived.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Alice</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM, François Poplin <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr" target="_blank" class="">poplin@mnhn.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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"oovicaprin antlers" sounds strange...<br class="">
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Dis you try to produce sound with ?<br class="">
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I have at home.. j'ai à la maison une poignée d'ombrelle très XIXe
siècle taillée dans une dague de cerf (le premier "bois", simple),
dont la partie proximale est travaillée en sifflet comme cela.<br class="">
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Le 01/01/2016 04:53, Sonja Vukovic a écrit :<br class="">
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<div class="">By analyzing animal bones from the Roman city
Viminacium I came across several interesting antler
objects that my colleague and I argue that were used as
whistles. While I was searching through papers, I have
found barely several similar objects (and majority of
them were not determined as being whistles). I have also
contacted some of you for an advice on the subject. So,
I am now asking entire group - do you know any published
similar antler whistles (not only Roman)?! I am
attaching a photo of one of them. </div>
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<div class="">best wishes, Marry Christmas & Happy New Year,</div>
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<div class="">Laboratory for bioarchaeology</div>
<div class="">Faculty of Philosophy </div>
<div class="">University of Belgrade </div>
<div class="">Serbia</div>
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