[Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 97, Issue 50

Selena Vitezović selenavitezovic at gmail.com
Tue Apr 22 22:45:25 CEST 2014


Dear Boris,

Thank you for your paper!

(para mi, Español no es un problema-¡muchas gracias!)
selena


On 22 April 2014 21:55, Boris Santander Pizarro
<boris.santander at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Selena for your work, I enjoyed a lot reading it!
>
> About bone compressors for lithic debitage, we had published a few months
> ago a paper about SEM microscopy applied to bone tools with some
> interesting pictures of retouchers from Chile. Sadly, is just in spanish,
> but the pictures might be useful for someone.
>
> http://www.revistadeantropologia.uchile.cl/index.php/RCA/article/
> viewFile/26557/28012
>
>
> Best Regards
> Boris
>
>
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>>     1. Re: Iceman's antler retouching tool (Selena Vitezovi?)
>>     2. Re: Iceman's antler retouching tool (????? ??????)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:47:51 +0200
>> From: Selena Vitezovi? <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
>> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>>         study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
>>         <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Iceman's antler retouching tool
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>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Few months ago I asked for help related to antler retouching tools. Thanks
>> again for everyone who helped me and all the references you shared with
>> me.
>> I am pleased to inform you that my paper is now published and is available
>> in open access: http://haemus.mk/haemus-journal-vol-2-2013-vitezovic/
>> Below the abstract is the link for pdf.
>>
>> best regards, Selena
>>
>>
>> On 6 October 2013 15:44, Selena Vitezovi? <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Dear J?rg,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the response and the article, such an interesting article
>>> is
>>> never too late.
>>>
>>> best, Selena
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 October 2013 12:43, J?rg Schibler <joerg.schibler at unibas.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Dear Selena,
>>>> sorry for the late response. Retouching tools made of antler splinters
>>>> are very common in Neolithic Swiss lakeshore sites (4300-2400 BC).
>>>> Normally
>>>> they are made of splitters, have a hole for fixing them at a belt (or
>>>> somewhere) and could be also decorated (engraved) (see figure 20.4.
>>>> examples 27 and 28). There exist also a few examples made of the end of
>>>> antler tines with a hole at the end. I send you an overview article
>>>> with a
>>>> picture of an example made of a antler splinter and some more
>>>> references in
>>>> the list.
>>>> All the best!
>>>> J?rg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Am 04.10.2013 um 14:01 schrieb Selena Vitezovi? <
>>>> selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>   Spasibo, Mikhail, I will take a look.
>>>>
>>>> best, selena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4 October 2013 09:18, ????? ?????? <mizhilin at yandex.ru> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Selena,
>>>>
>>>> visit my website: www.mizhilin.narod.ru
>>>> You'll find there some photos and publications of mesolithic bone and
>>>> antler artefacts, among them pressure flakes of various types.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Mikhail Zhilin
>>>>
>>>> 03.10.2013, 18:17, "Selena Vitezovi?" <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>    Antler retouching tools ocurr here and there in prehistoric Europe, I
>>>> have few pieces from Star?evo culture sites and few from Iron Gates
>>>> Mesolithic sites, although the example from Donja Branjevina (on photo)
>>>> is
>>>> the most elaborate one, others are more ad hoc and some are just broken
>>>> antler tools secondary used for flint retouching. The most interesting
>>>> thing about the Iceman's object is that it has a haft, and that it was,
>>>> evidently, a planned tool, used repeatidly, and even carried around, not
>>>> abandoned on the place of use. Therefore I am grateful for any
>>>> information
>>>> about the references.
>>>>   Another interesting thing, Lena, is that antler retouching tools seem
>>>> to
>>>> be present in Mesolithic and Early/Middle Neolithic (unlike ad hoc used
>>>> bones in the Palaeolithic times), and dissapear from later Neolithic
>>>> onwards (so far I haven't seen any in Vin?a culture assemblages). But
>>>> this
>>>> is a completely different topic.
>>>>   Looking forward to get more the references on Iceman.
>>>>
>>>>   thanks and all the best, selena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2 October 2013 19:10, Lena Strid <lena.strid at oxfordarch.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Dale,
>>>>
>>>> Similar antler tools ("tryckstock") have been found at the mesolithic
>>>> sites at T?gerup and Motala, both in Sweden, a few years ago. The
>>>> T?gerup
>>>> excavations have been published (Per Karsten & Bo Knarrstr?m 2003, The
>>>> T?gerup Excavations. Part of the series "Sk?nska sp?r - arkeologi l?ngs
>>>> V?stkustbanan"), but the Motala excavations are I believe ongoing. It
>>>> might
>>>> be worth contacting the local excavation unit* to see if they can give
>>>> you
>>>> more information.
>>>>
>>>> *: National Heritage Board excavation unit, eastern Sweden:
>>>> uvost at raa.se
>>>>
>>>> /Lena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Serjeantson D." <D.Serjeantson at soton.ac.uk>
>>>> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
>>>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and
>>>> horn." <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October, 2013 12:51:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Iceman's antler retouching tool
>>>>
>>>> Dear Selena,
>>>> The tool is described in 'The Man in the Ice' by Spindler (p.105). He
>>>> described it as a piece of lime wood with a hole drilled down the middle
>>>> with a rod or spike of antler inserted into the hole. The fact that it
>>>> was antler was confirmed by Angela von den Driesch. The tip of the rod
>>>> had been hardened by fire to strengthen it and was a blackish colour.
>>>> The rod or spike was 5.1 cm long and 5 mm in diameter.
>>>>
>>>> I have got a copy of the catalogue from the display in Bolzano and it
>>>> does contain a good colour photo of the retoucheur. If you would like a
>>>> scan, I can do that when I next have access to a scanner.
>>>>
>>>> The catalogue says that nothing similar has been found elsewhere. Have
>>>> you found an antler rod which might be from a similar tool? I wonder if
>>>> anyone else has since found a similar rod.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> Dale Serjeantson FSA, MIFA, MA
>>>> Archaeology Faculty of Humanities
>>>> University of Southampton
>>>> Southampton S017 1BJ
>>>>
>>>> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/archaeology/about/staff/dale.page
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>>>> [bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] on behalf of Selena Vitezovi?
>>>> [selenavitezovic at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 02 October 2013 10:22
>>>> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
>>>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>>>> Subject: [Bonetools] Iceman's antler retouching tool
>>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Two years ago, I saw and exhibition on Otzi, the Iceman, in Historical
>>>> museum in Oslo (exhibition was a visiting one, but I do not recall who
>>>> originally made it, I saw it while attending EAA conference in Oslo).
>>>> There I saw the replicas of some items found in Iceman's pockets,
>>>> including a retouching tool made from antler. However, this was an
>>>> exhibition without accompanying catalogue, and I was wondering if anyone
>>>> can help mi with reference for this information?
>>>> Perhaps the same exhibition was held in some other museum with a
>>>> catalogue: I tried to find any data on papers published on Otzi, which
>>>> are quite numerous, but so far I haven't encountered any mention of
>>>> antler retouching tool.
>>>> Any help is welcome, thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Selena Vitezovi?
>>>>
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> Boris Santander Pizarro
> Archaeologist, Universidad de Chile
> Ph.D candidate in Quaternary and Prehistory, URV, Spain
> Institut Català de Paleoecologia Humana i Evolució Social, IPHES, Spain
> GQP-CG (uID 73 - FCT), Portugal
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