[Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 97, Issue 50
Boris Santander Pizarro
boris.santander at gmail.com
Tue Apr 22 21:55:15 CEST 2014
Thanks Selena for your work, I enjoyed a lot reading it!
About bone compressors for lithic debitage, we had published a few
months ago a paper about SEM microscopy applied to bone tools with some
interesting pictures of retouchers from Chile. Sadly, is just in
spanish, but the pictures might be useful for someone.
http://www.revistadeantropologia.uchile.cl/index.php/RCA/article/viewFile/26557/28012
Best Regards
Boris
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> 1. Re: Iceman's antler retouching tool (Selena Vitezovi?)
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> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:47:51 +0200
> From: Selena Vitezovi? <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
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> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
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> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Iceman's antler retouching tool
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> Dear colleagues,
>
> Few months ago I asked for help related to antler retouching tools. Thanks
> again for everyone who helped me and all the references you shared with me.
> I am pleased to inform you that my paper is now published and is available
> in open access: http://haemus.mk/haemus-journal-vol-2-2013-vitezovic/
> Below the abstract is the link for pdf.
>
> best regards, Selena
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> On 6 October 2013 15:44, Selena Vitezovi? <selenavitezovic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear J?rg,
>>
>> Thank you for the response and the article, such an interesting article is
>> never too late.
>>
>> best, Selena
>>
>>
>> On 6 October 2013 12:43, J?rg Schibler <joerg.schibler at unibas.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Selena,
>>> sorry for the late response. Retouching tools made of antler splinters
>>> are very common in Neolithic Swiss lakeshore sites (4300-2400 BC). Normally
>>> they are made of splitters, have a hole for fixing them at a belt (or
>>> somewhere) and could be also decorated (engraved) (see figure 20.4.
>>> examples 27 and 28). There exist also a few examples made of the end of
>>> antler tines with a hole at the end. I send you an overview article with a
>>> picture of an example made of a antler splinter and some more references in
>>> the list.
>>> All the best!
>>> J?rg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.10.2013 um 14:01 schrieb Selena Vitezovi? <
>>> selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
>>> :
>>>
>>> Spasibo, Mikhail, I will take a look.
>>>
>>> best, selena
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4 October 2013 09:18, ????? ?????? <mizhilin at yandex.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Selena,
>>>
>>> visit my website: www.mizhilin.narod.ru
>>> You'll find there some photos and publications of mesolithic bone and
>>> antler artefacts, among them pressure flakes of various types.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Mikhail Zhilin
>>>
>>> 03.10.2013, 18:17, "Selena Vitezovi?" <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Antler retouching tools ocurr here and there in prehistoric Europe, I
>>> have few pieces from Star?evo culture sites and few from Iron Gates
>>> Mesolithic sites, although the example from Donja Branjevina (on photo) is
>>> the most elaborate one, others are more ad hoc and some are just broken
>>> antler tools secondary used for flint retouching. The most interesting
>>> thing about the Iceman's object is that it has a haft, and that it was,
>>> evidently, a planned tool, used repeatidly, and even carried around, not
>>> abandoned on the place of use. Therefore I am grateful for any information
>>> about the references.
>>> Another interesting thing, Lena, is that antler retouching tools seem to
>>> be present in Mesolithic and Early/Middle Neolithic (unlike ad hoc used
>>> bones in the Palaeolithic times), and dissapear from later Neolithic
>>> onwards (so far I haven't seen any in Vin?a culture assemblages). But this
>>> is a completely different topic.
>>> Looking forward to get more the references on Iceman.
>>>
>>> thanks and all the best, selena
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2013 19:10, Lena Strid <lena.strid at oxfordarch.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Dale,
>>>
>>> Similar antler tools ("tryckstock") have been found at the mesolithic
>>> sites at T?gerup and Motala, both in Sweden, a few years ago. The T?gerup
>>> excavations have been published (Per Karsten & Bo Knarrstr?m 2003, The
>>> T?gerup Excavations. Part of the series "Sk?nska sp?r - arkeologi l?ngs
>>> V?stkustbanan"), but the Motala excavations are I believe ongoing. It might
>>> be worth contacting the local excavation unit* to see if they can give you
>>> more information.
>>>
>>> *: National Heritage Board excavation unit, eastern Sweden: uvost at raa.se
>>>
>>> /Lena
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Serjeantson D." <D.Serjeantson at soton.ac.uk>
>>> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
>>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and
>>> horn." <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October, 2013 12:51:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Iceman's antler retouching tool
>>>
>>> Dear Selena,
>>> The tool is described in 'The Man in the Ice' by Spindler (p.105). He
>>> described it as a piece of lime wood with a hole drilled down the middle
>>> with a rod or spike of antler inserted into the hole. The fact that it
>>> was antler was confirmed by Angela von den Driesch. The tip of the rod
>>> had been hardened by fire to strengthen it and was a blackish colour.
>>> The rod or spike was 5.1 cm long and 5 mm in diameter.
>>>
>>> I have got a copy of the catalogue from the display in Bolzano and it
>>> does contain a good colour photo of the retoucheur. If you would like a
>>> scan, I can do that when I next have access to a scanner.
>>>
>>> The catalogue says that nothing similar has been found elsewhere. Have
>>> you found an antler rod which might be from a similar tool? I wonder if
>>> anyone else has since found a similar rod.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> Dale Serjeantson FSA, MIFA, MA
>>> Archaeology Faculty of Humanities
>>> University of Southampton
>>> Southampton S017 1BJ
>>>
>>> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/archaeology/about/staff/dale.page
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>>> [bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] on behalf of Selena Vitezovi?
>>> [selenavitezovic at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 02 October 2013 10:22
>>> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
>>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>>> Subject: [Bonetools] Iceman's antler retouching tool
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> Two years ago, I saw and exhibition on Otzi, the Iceman, in Historical
>>> museum in Oslo (exhibition was a visiting one, but I do not recall who
>>> originally made it, I saw it while attending EAA conference in Oslo).
>>> There I saw the replicas of some items found in Iceman's pockets,
>>> including a retouching tool made from antler. However, this was an
>>> exhibition without accompanying catalogue, and I was wondering if anyone
>>> can help mi with reference for this information?
>>> Perhaps the same exhibition was held in some other museum with a
>>> catalogue: I tried to find any data on papers published on Otzi, which
>>> are quite numerous, but so far I haven't encountered any mention of
>>> antler retouching tool.
>>> Any help is welcome, thank you.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Selena Vitezovi?
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Boris Santander Pizarro
Archaeologist, Universidad de Chile
Ph.D candidate in Quaternary and Prehistory, URV, Spain
Institut Català de Paleoecologia Humana i Evolució Social, IPHES, Spain
GQP-CG (uID 73 - FCT), Portugal
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