[Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
SA O'Connor
S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk
Tue Mar 5 19:31:58 CET 2013
Thanks you Etan. I have passed this on to Erik. It will be
interesting to see what other information he can come up with.
All the best,
Sonia
Quoting Etan Ayalon <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il>:
> Dear all,
>
> Perhaps the object was what we call "belt divider" (which could also
> used to divide other groups of thin leather stripes or threads), or
> a weaving tablet? Cf.:
>
> Ayalon, E. 2005. The Assemblage of Bone and Ivory Artifacts from
> Caesarea Maritima, Israel 1st-13th Centuries CE (BAR IS 1457).
> Oxford:30, No. 89, Fig. 8:89.
>
> Etan
>
>
>
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of S O'Connor
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:19 PM
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> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.'
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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>
> Dear Etan, Boris and Maja,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your comments I will pass your comments on to Erik. I
> have not seen the object myself.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Sonia
>
>
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow,
> University of York
>
> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
>
> Archaeological Sciences
>
> Division of AGES,
>
> University of Bradford
>
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
>
>
> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
>
> fax 01274 23 5210
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>
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Etan Ayalon
> Sent: 04 March 2013 11:23
> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for
> thestudy of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
>
>
>
> By the way, on October 30, 2012 Putelat Oliviers sent a mail about a
> piece of bone with a rather similar row of holes, found in an Iron
> Age salt works in Lorrain, France. You, Sonia, had a suggestion for
> its use.
>
> Etan
>
>
>
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of S O'Connor
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:31 PM
> To: 'Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.'
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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>
> I will ask Erik if he can be any more precise about the date.
>
>
>
> Sonia
>
>
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow,
> University of York
>
> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
>
> Archaeological Sciences
>
> Division of AGES,
>
> University of Bradford
>
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
>
>
> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
>
> fax 01274 23 5210
>
>
>
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Etan Ayalon
> Sent: 03 March 2013 06:22
> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for
> thestudy of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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>
>
> What is the date of this object?
>
> Etan
>
>
>
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Selena
> Vitezovic
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:50 PM
> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> There is a paper from M. Meneses Fernandez on similar objects
> (although from Neolithic), with experimental results, in the volume
> "Trace et fonction: les gestes retrouvés", eds. P. Anderson, S.
> Beyries, M. Otte and H, Plisson.
>
> best regards, Selena
>
> On 1 March 2013 17:45, S O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Thank you for these observations François, I will pass them on to Erik.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Sonia
>
>
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow,
> University of York
>
> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
>
> Archaeological Sciences
>
> Division of AGES,
>
> University of Bradford
>
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
>
>
> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
>
> fax 01274 23 5210
>
>
>
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of François
> Poplin
> Sent: 01 March 2013 14:33
> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
>
>
>
> Indeed, the worn of the "entire broken" end is more moticeable than
> the wear of the "last" (complete) hole (it's clear that another, a
> "more last" hole was there, and necessarily - the thing won't break
> between to holes). The wear of the inter-hole may be due to a
> leather strap/band rather than to a thread, for the worn spreads
> widely in the hole (and not causing an ogival bay). That makes me
> think of an attachment for hanging the piece or, rather, for
> attaching something to it, as in a "porte clés". Again, the whole
> worn of that end is the more important thing; maybe was the break
> rasped first in orther to make it "flat", to get rid of the
> irregularity.
>
> the repeated drill-holes (made with the same drill, I suppose) did
> not receive moving thread, string, as they show no worn - but, for
> the same rason, they coud have received firm bars of wood, for
> instance, as in a ladder. I don't dare to thing that this was just
> an exercise of drilling... : after the break, maybe, not before; and
> the hole are too regurlarly distrbuited (in line and in equidistance)
>
> Inbetween, the clok has run.. I have to stop.
>
> Your's.
>
> Le 01/03/2013 13:37, S O'Connor a écrit :
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I am forwarding on this enquiry from a student at the University of
> Durham. I have objects like this, but not so thick, in wood and
> plastic on which I store my different coloured threads when I am
> working on an embroidery project. However the pattern of wear does
> not really support this use. Perhaps the wear and polish at the
> broken end suggests a reuse of something originally made for an
> entirely different purpose. If you have any suggestions or
> parallels, please let me know and I will forward them on to Erik.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Sonia
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow,
> University of York
>
> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
>
> Archaeological Sciences
>
> Division of AGES,
>
> University of Bradford
>
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
>
>
> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
>
> fax 01274 23 5210
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Dr. O'Connor,
>
> My name is Erik Farrell; I am a student in the MA Artefact
> Conservation programme at Durham university, and am currently
> working on identifying a bone object for the Durham Oriental Museum.
> I suspect it to be either a tool associated with textile
> manufacture, or potentially an oddly shaped spacer bead, but because
> of the poor survival rate of textile tools am having a difficult
> time finding any comparable examples. I contacted Dr. Mary Brooks
> here at Durham, and she recommended I contact you as someone with
> expertise in both bone artefacts and textiles.
>
> The object is made of bone; I am working on getting a species
> identification, but have managed to rule out ivory. It is from
> Egypt, but it is from an older collection, so I do not yet have a
> date range or cultural period.
>
> You can see in the photos that the broken end is tapered on the
> surviving piece, and looks like it would have come to a point or a
> rounded point. There are holes along the entire length, but only the
> hole at the complete end shows wear; it looks like it has been worn
> by a thread passing through the hole, wrapped around the back end of
> the object. It is this wear pattern that makes me think textile
> manufacture may be an option. I don't really know what to make of
> the lack of comparable wear in the other holes.
>
> I have attached the artefact photos and a scan of the archaeological
> drawing to this email. I am hoping your background and knowledge of
> bone objects and textile production may give some insight on
> potential uses for this object. I have also included a couple photos
> of breaks under the microscope on the chance that you might be able
> to give some insight into what sort of bone this is, but I know that
> sort of identification is usually done with the object in hand. Any
> information you can give me - even if it is just speculation on
> potential uses for a tool of this size and shape - would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Erik Farrell
>
>
>
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