[Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 84, Issue 6

[Boris Santander Pizarro]

I'm not familiarized with european textile tools, but, if he can add 
some microphotos (even 40x it's good), I can compare with my own 
experimental and archaeological perforations, related with Alpaca (Lama 
pacos) wool threads. At micro level, the smooth polish of wool seems 
VERY noticeable, even under optical microscopes...

Maybe Beth Stone have more Ideas...

regards to everyone


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> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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> I will ask Erik if he can be any more precise about the date.
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> Sonia
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> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Etan Ayalon
> Sent: 03 March 2013 06:22
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> object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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> What is the date of this object?
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> Etan
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> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Selena Vitezovic
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> ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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> Hello everyone,
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> There is a paper from M. Meneses Fernandez on similar objects (although from
> Neolithic), with experimental results, in the volume "Trace et fonction: les
> gestes retrouv?s", eds. P. Anderson, S. Beyries, M. Otte and H, Plisson.
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> best regards, Selena
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> On 1 March 2013 17:45, S O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk> wrote:
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> Thank you for these observations Fran?ois, I will pass them on to Erik.
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> All the best,
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> Sonia
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> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of
> York
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> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
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> Archaeological Sciences
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> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Fran?ois Poplin
> Sent: 01 March 2013 14:33
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> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?
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> Indeed, the worn of the "entire broken" end is more moticeable than the wear
> of the "last" (complete) hole (it's clear that another, a "more last" hole
> was there, and necessarily - the thing won't break between to holes). The
> wear of the inter-hole may be due to a leather strap/band rather than to a
> thread, for the worn spreads widely in the hole (and not causing an ogival
> bay). That makes me think of an attachment for hanging the piece or, rather,
> for attaching something to it, as in a "porte cl?s". Again, the whole worn
> of that end is the more important thing; maybe was the break rasped first in
> orther to make it "flat", to get rid of the irregularity.
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> the repeated drill-holes (made with the same drill, I suppose) did not
> receive moving thread, string, as they show no worn - but, for the same
> rason, they coud have received firm bars of wood, for instance, as in a
> ladder. I don't dare to thing that this was just an exercise of drilling...
> : after the break, maybe, not before; and the hole are too regurlarly
> distrbuited (in line and in equidistance)
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> Inbetween, the clok has run.. I have to stop.
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> Your's.
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> Le 01/03/2013 13:37, S O'Connor a ?crit :
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> Dear All,
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> I am forwarding on this enquiry from a student at the University of Durham.
> I have objects like this, but not so thick, in wood and plastic on which I
> store my different coloured threads when I am working on an embroidery
> project.  However the pattern of wear does not really support this use.
> Perhaps the wear and polish at the broken end suggests a reuse of something
> originally made for an entirely different purpose.  If you have any
> suggestions or parallels, please let me know and I will forward them on to
> Erik.
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> All the best,
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> Sonia
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> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of
> York
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> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
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> Archaeological Sciences
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> Division of AGES,
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> University of Bradford
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> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
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> Dear Dr. O'Connor,
>
> My name is Erik Farrell; I am a student in the MA Artefact Conservation
> programme at Durham university, and am currently working on identifying a
> bone object for the Durham Oriental Museum. I suspect it to be either a tool
> associated with textile manufacture, or potentially an oddly shaped spacer
> bead, but because of the poor survival rate of textile tools am having a
> difficult time finding any comparable examples. I contacted Dr. Mary Brooks
> here at Durham, and she recommended I contact you as someone with expertise
> in both bone artefacts and textiles.
>
> The object is made of bone; I am working on getting a species
> identification, but have managed to rule out ivory. It is from Egypt, but it
> is from an older collection, so I do not yet have a date range or cultural
> period.
>
> You can see in the photos that the broken end is tapered on the surviving
> piece, and looks like it would have come to a point or a rounded point.
> There are holes along the entire length, but only the hole at the complete
> end shows wear; it looks like it has been worn by a thread passing through
> the hole, wrapped around the back end of the object. It is this wear pattern
> that makes me think textile manufacture may be an option. I don't really
> know what to make of the lack of comparable wear in the other holes.
>
> I have attached the artefact photos and a scan of the archaeological drawing
> to this email. I am hoping your background and knowledge of bone objects and
> textile production may give some insight on potential uses for this object.
> I have also included a couple photos of breaks under the microscope on the
> chance that you might be able to give some insight into what sort of bone
> this is, but I know that sort of identification is usually done with the
> object in hand. Any information you can give me - even if it is just
> speculation on potential uses for a tool of this size and shape - would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Erik Farrell
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Boris Santander Pizarro
Archaeologist, Universidad de Chile
Instituto Terra e Memória, Portugal
Institut Català de Paleoecologia Humana i Evolució Social, IPHES, Spain
Ph.D program in Quaternary and Prehistory, URV, Spain