[Bonetools] Mammoth tusk as raw material in Roman times?

[Selena Vitezovic]

Hello, everyone,

The item is from the secured context, it was discovered during the
excavations conducted by Sofija Petković herself.
As to the photos, it must be checked with Sofija first.
L'objet était trouvé pendant les fouilles qui était menée par Sofija
Petković. Il faut verifié avec Sofija pour les photos.

best regards, Selena


On 17 April 2013 12:31, S O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Sonja,
>
> As François says, it would be useful to know the context for the object. Is
> it possible for us to see some photographs of the fragment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sonia
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of
> York
> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
> Archaeological Sciences
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of François Poplin
> Sent: 17 April 2013 09:11
> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Mammoth tusk as raw material in Roman times?
>
> Dear SA O'Connor
>
> 1°) I am affraid, but the fact that has not been answered my question "Has
> it been found in a genuine and secure archaelogical excavation ?"
> sounds bad,
>
> 2°) in that very case, there is a mighty, excellent way to know. Who can
> tell ? (Olivier please, keep quite for some days).
>
> Your's.
>
> Le 16/04/2013 14:32, SA O'Connor a écrit :
> > Dear Sonja,
> >
> > I would be really interested in knowing the basis of this
> > identification. If this is based on Schreger angle measurements, it
> > may not be possible to differentiate mammoth from extant elephant with
> > any confidence from a fragment.
> >
> > Only the outer Schreger angles are diagnostic, i.e. those in the
> > outermost layers of the dentine, close to the cementum covering of the
> > tusk. Towards the centre of a tusk the angles become progressively
> > smaller and similar in character whether the tusk is from an extant
> > and extinct proboscidean species. So, even if the Schreger angles
> > average less than 100 or even 90 degrees, unless traces of the
> > cementum are visible the fragment might come from any position in the
> > tusk and could be elephant or mammoth.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Sonia
> >
> >
> > kQuoting Sonja Vukovic <sonja.vukovic at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Dear colleagues,
> >>
> >> I am forwarding you a query from our colleague, Dr Sofija Petkovic
> >> from the Institute of Archaeology in Belgrade. She is analysing an
> >> object made of the mammoth tusk, found in Romuliana (Serbia), that
> >> dates back to the Roman period. The object is fragmented and it
> >> represents an elephant's head done in a relief. The function of this
> >> item is unclear, but it was probably an application for some kind of
> >> furniture or sarcophagi, etc..
> >>
> >> She is wondering weather anyone has ever identified a mammoth tusk as
> >> raw material in Roman period?!
> >>
> >> Anyway, she is going to publish this object soon!
> >>
> >> Thank you very much,
> >> best wishes,
> >>
> >> Sonja
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sonja Vukovic
> >> Laboratory for bioarchaeology
> >> Faculty of Philosophy
> >> University of Belgrade
> >> Serbia
> >>
> >
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