<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello, everyone, <br><br></div>The item is from the secured context, it was discovered during the excavations conducted by Sofija Petkoviæ herself. <br></div><div>As to the photos, it must be checked with Sofija first. <br>
</div><div>L'objet était trouvé pendant les fouilles qui était menée par Sofija Petkoviæ. Il faut verifié avec Sofija pour les photos. <br><br></div><div>best regards, Selena <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 April 2013 12:31, S O'Connor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk" target="_blank">S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Sonja,<br>
<br>
As François says, it would be useful to know the context for the object. Is<br>
it possible for us to see some photographs of the fragment?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Sonia<br>
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Mammoth tusk as raw material in Roman times?<br>
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Dear SA O'Connor<br>
<br>
1°) I am affraid, but the fact that has not been answered my question "Has<br>
it been found in a genuine and secure archaelogical excavation ?"<br>
sounds bad,<br>
<br>
2°) in that very case, there is a mighty, excellent way to know. Who can<br>
tell ? (Olivier please, keep quite for some days).<br>
<br>
Your's.<br>
<br>
Le 16/04/2013 14:32, SA O'Connor a écrit :<br>
> Dear Sonja,<br>
><br>
> I would be really interested in knowing the basis of this<br>
> identification. If this is based on Schreger angle measurements, it<br>
> may not be possible to differentiate mammoth from extant elephant with<br>
> any confidence from a fragment.<br>
><br>
> Only the outer Schreger angles are diagnostic, i.e. those in the<br>
> outermost layers of the dentine, close to the cementum covering of the<br>
> tusk. Towards the centre of a tusk the angles become progressively<br>
> smaller and similar in character whether the tusk is from an extant<br>
> and extinct proboscidean species. So, even if the Schreger angles<br>
> average less than 100 or even 90 degrees, unless traces of the<br>
> cementum are visible the fragment might come from any position in the<br>
> tusk and could be elephant or mammoth.<br>
><br>
> All the best,<br>
><br>
> Sonia<br>
><br>
><br>
> kQuoting Sonja Vukovic <<a href="mailto:sonja.vukovic@gmail.com">sonja.vukovic@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
>> Dear colleagues,<br>
>><br>
>> I am forwarding you a query from our colleague, Dr Sofija Petkovic<br>
>> from the Institute of Archaeology in Belgrade. She is analysing an<br>
>> object made of the mammoth tusk, found in Romuliana (Serbia), that<br>
>> dates back to the Roman period. The object is fragmented and it<br>
>> represents an elephant's head done in a relief. The function of this<br>
>> item is unclear, but it was probably an application for some kind of<br>
>> furniture or sarcophagi, etc..<br>
>><br>
>> She is wondering weather anyone has ever identified a mammoth tusk as<br>
>> raw material in Roman period?!<br>
>><br>
>> Anyway, she is going to publish this object soon!<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you very much,<br>
>> best wishes,<br>
>><br>
>> Sonja<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Sonja Vukovic<br>
>> Laboratory for bioarchaeology<br>
>> Faculty of Philosophy<br>
>> University of Belgrade<br>
>> Serbia<br>
>><br>
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