[Bonetools] bone pavement

Wed Jul 11 15:31:10 CEST 2012

Dear all,

Sorry for all the confusion. But `bikkel` is the Dutch word for knucklebone
and `been` is the Dutch word for bone. And together it forms the name of my
enterprise Bikkel and Been. I get always very enthousiastic when I read
something about knucklebones because I am writing a little book about the
use of the knucklebones in ancient times. And because I am not a good
writer this book is still not finished.

greetings Monica Tielens

2012/7/10 Serjeantson D. <D.Serjeantson at soton.ac.uk>

> Here is one photo of part of the floor. I will send another separately. I
> was only able to take photos of parts of the floor as I did not have a
> proper camera with me.
>
> All floors of this type are usually called 'knucklebone floors' in
> English, even if they are made with (or decorated with) other elements such
> as teeth and metapodials, such as here - see the article and gazetteer by
> Philip Armitage - ARMITAGE, P. 1989. Gazetteer of sites with animal bones
> used as building material and
>
> ARMITAGE, P. L. 1989. The use of animal bones as building material in Post
> Medieval Britain. In: SERJEANTSON, D. & WALDRON, T. (eds.) Diet and Crafts
> in Towns.
>
>
>
> 'Knuckle' bones does usually refer to the astragalus, though I suppose
> that an ape (or a person) which walks on its knuckles will be walking on
> the distal metacarpals. Are bikkelbeen the same??
>
> Dale
>
>
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> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [
> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] on behalf of T + M Tielens [
> info at bikkelenbeen.nl]
> Sent: 10 July 2012 19:06
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> object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] bone pavement
>
> Dear all,
>
> They appear to me as metapodia and not knucklebones (astragalus). Do you
> agree?
>
> greetings Monica Tielens
> Bikkel (knucklebone) and Been (bone)
> 2012/7/10 François Poplin <poplin at mnhn.fr<mailto:poplin at mnhn.fr>>
> Dear Dale Serjantson,
>
> may I have more detail about your find, even a picture ? (is it published
> yet ?)
>
> What do you mean with/by "knucklebones" ? talus/astragalus as usual ?
>
> Your's faithfully.
>
>
> Le 10/07/2012 11:41, Serjeantson D. a écrit :
>
> Hello Colleagues
> This example of a 'knucklebone floor' in the Jura is very interesting.
>
> I have just discovered another one in England, at Uppark, a National Trust
> house in Sussex. It is part of a outdoor game larder designed by the
> architect Humphry Repton.
>
> I would be very interested to hear about other examples. Also, does anyone
> have recommendations about the best way to conserve such floors? This one
> is outdoors, and probably needs some conservation.
>
> Dale
>
> Dale Serjeantson
> Archaeology
> School of Humanities
> University of Southampton
>
> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/archaeology/profiles/serjeantson.html
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>
> Dear Alice, dear all,
>
> Please, have a look, I'll come back afterwards.
>
> http://www.aricia.fr/jura-patrimoine/Os.htm
>
> Maybe would it be good to present that of the archezoo mailing list too ?
>
> Alice, I remember Sandor Bökönyi telling of such thing(s) in Prague. Can
> you précise with Laslo Bart. ?
>
> I have seen a case in Spain recently (the picture is still in the camera).
>
> Your's.
>
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> Monica Tielens
> Bikkel en Been
>
> Lingedijk 35
> 4191 VB  Geldermalsen
>
> tel: 0031(0)345 582089
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> e-mail: info at bikkelenbeen.nl<mailto:info at bikkelenbeen.nl>
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Monica Tielens
Bikkel en Been

Lingedijk 35
4191 VB  Geldermalsen

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