[Bonetools] bone arrow from Iron Age or Antiquity

Mon Mar 24 09:32:25 CET 2025

Dear Alice, Petar, and Haskel,

Thank you very much for these useful suggestions!!!

Best, Selena

--
dr Selena Vitezović
Arheološki institut / Institute of Archaeology
Kneza Mihaila 35/IV, 11 000 Beograd RS
www.ai.ac.rs

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025, 05:57 Alice Choyke, <choyke at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Petar,
>         Thanks - that is actually a super useful list . It occurs to me
> that the Mesolithic component of Schela Cladeva at the edge of the Iron
> Gates has a number
> of bodies with small bone projectile points in them. However, I really
> cannot think of Late  Antique or medieval examples at least in our part of
> the world.
>
> Alice
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 00:40 Petar Zidarov <petar.zidarov at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Selena and Alice,
>> These may be of help but I don't have a copy:
>> Eckhardt, H. 1996. *Pfeil und Bogen : eine archäologisch-technologische
>> Untersuchung zu urnenfelder- und hallstattzeitlichen Befunden*. Vol. *21*.
>> Internationale Archäologie 0. Espelkamp: Leidorf.
>>
>> Pape, W. 1982. “Au sujet de quelques pointes de flèches en os.” In *L’Industrie
>> en os et bois de Cervidé durant le Néolithique et l’âge des Métaux: Dexième
>> réunion du Groupe de Travail No3 sur l’Industrie de l’os préhistorique,
>> Saint-German-en-Laye, 1980*, edited by Henriette Camps-Fabrer, 135–172.
>> Paris: Editions du CNRS.
>>
>> Here are some BA examples from Romania and Finland:
>> Dietrich, L. 2013. “Projectile Weapons of the Late Bronze Age in the
>> Eastern Europe. The Case of the Noua- Sabatinovka-Coslogeni Cultural
>> Complex.” In *Archäologische Wanderungen Zwischen Ost- Und Westeuropa.
>> Festschrift Tiberius Bader Zum 75. Geburtstag*, I:181–97. Satu Mare
>> Studii şi Comunicări, seria  Arheologie XXIX. SATU MARE: EDITURA MUZEULUI
>> SĂTMĂREAN.
>> https://www.academia.edu/7594543/Projectile_weapons_of_the_Late_Bronze_Age_in_the_Eastern_Europe_The_case_of_the_Noua_Sabatinovka_Coslogeni_cultural_complex
>> .
>>
>> Ikäheimo, J.P., J. Joona, and M. Hietala. 2004. “Wretchedly Poor, but
>> Amazingly Practical: Archaeological and Experimental Evidence on the Bone
>> Arrowheads of the Fenni.” *Acta Borealia* 21 (1):3–20. doi:
>> 10.1080/08003830410001840 <https://doi.org/10.1080/08003830410001840>.
>>
>> Iron Age in Central Europe:
>> Chochorowski, J. 1985. “Die Rolle Der Vekerzug-Kultur (VK) Im Rahmen Der
>> Skythischen Einflüsse in Mitteleuropa.” *Praehistorische Zeitschrift* 60
>> (2):204–71. doi:10.1515/prhz.1985.60.2.204
>> <https://doi.org/10.1515/prhz.1985.60.2.204>.
>>
>> - from Altai -
>> Шульга, П.И. 2002. “Ранние Наконечники Стрел Из Курганов Скифского
>> Времени На Алтае.” In *Материалы По Военной Археологии Алтая и
>> Сопредельных Территорий: Сборник Научных Трудов*, edited by В. В.
>> Горбунов and А. А. Тишкин, 43–61. Барнаул: Изд-во Алт. ун-та.
>> https://www.academia.edu/26552207/%D0%A8%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D0%9F.%D0%98._%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B5_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2._%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BB_%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B4-%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82._%D1%83%D0%BD-%D1%82%D0%B0_2002._%D0%A1._43-61._.pdf
>> .
>> - and Tian Shan ...
>> Иванов, С.С., and Т.Ж. Тулегенов. 2016. “Костяные (Роговые) Наконечники
>> Стрел Ранних Кочевников Притяньшанья / The Bone (Horn) Arrowheads of
>> Ancient Nomads of Tien Shan Region.” In *Саки и Савроматы Казахских
>> Степей: Контакт Культур. Сборник Научных Статей, Посвященный Памяти
>> Археолога Бекена Нурмуханбетова*, edited by А Онгарулы, 75–81. Алматы:
>> Институт археологии им. А. Х. Маргулана.
>> https://www.academia.edu/31443280/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8C%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8C%D1%8F_The_bone_horn_arrowheads_of_ancient_nomads_of_Tien_Shan_region
>> .
>>
>> I am attaching those that are harder to get without institutional
>> subscription.
>> I hope these help as a starter.
>> Best wishes to all,
>> Petar
>>
>>
>> --
>> Petar Zidarov
>>
>> https://uni-tuebingen.academia.edu/PetarZidarov
>> <https://newbulgarian.academia.edu/PetarZidarov>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Petar_Zidarov2
>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9968-7786
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 23, 2025 at 11:55:37 PM GMT+2, Alice Choyke <
>> choyke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There are Chalcolithic examples of bone/ antler projectile points in
>> Hungary  from both Transdanubia and the Great Hungarian Plain. If you are
>> interested I can send you pictures. Other than that, as far as I remember,
>> only the Mongols used bone projectile points willingly. Outside Hungary
>> there are many projectile points in bone and antler from Lake Dwelling
>> sites across the alpine region. Petar - There is nothing like that from any
>> phase of the Hungarian Bronze Age.
>>
>> Best,
>> Alice
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025, 22:07 Selena Vitezović <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Petar,
>>
>> No - no traces of Bronze Age.
>> But do you have any analogies?
>>
>> Best, Selena
>>
>> --
>> dr Selena Vitezović
>> Arheološki institut / Institute of Archaeology
>> Kneza Mihaila 35
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kneza+Mihaila+35?entry=gmail&source=g>/IV,
>> 11 000 Beograd RS
>> www.ai.ac.rs
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, 16:18 Petar Zidarov, <petar.zidarov at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Selena!
>> Nice find indeed. Any chance that you may have Bronze age there?
>> Cheers, Petar
>>
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>> On чт, март 20, 2025 at 16:21, Selena Vitezović
>> <selenavitezovic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I hope you are all doing fine.
>> I have an interesting find from the site of Remesiana, in southern
>> Serbia. It looks like the tip of an arrow. The object was made from some
>> large mammal long bone, upper part is fragmented and also in the basal part
>> it is possible to see that the part used for inserting into the wooden part
>> is fragmented as well.
>> Now, the main problem is that this find comes from disturbed context, so
>> the excavators are uncertain whether this is from the Iron Age or from Late
>> Antiquity.
>> Personally, I have never seen anything remotely resembling this,
>> especially from the Iron Age or Antiquity - and the bone objects from the
>> Iron Age in particular are virtually unknown in the area.
>>
>> Any help with analogies, references, etc. is much appreciated.
>>
>> thank you, kind regards, Selena
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> dr Selena Vitezović
>> Arheološki institut / Institute of Archaeology
>> Kneza Mihaila 35
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kneza+Mihaila+35?entry=gmail&source=g>/IV,
>> 11 000 Beograd RS
>> www.ai.ac.rs
>>
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