[Bonetools] bone arrow from Iron Age or Antiquity
Alice Choyke
choyke at gmail.com
Mon Mar 24 05:57:01 CET 2025
Dear Petar,
Thanks - that is actually a super useful list . It occurs to me
that the Mesolithic component of Schela Cladeva at the edge of the Iron
Gates has a number
of bodies with small bone projectile points in them. However, I really
cannot think of Late Antique or medieval examples at least in our part of
the world.
Alice
On Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 00:40 Petar Zidarov <petar.zidarov at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Selena and Alice,
> These may be of help but I don't have a copy:
> Eckhardt, H. 1996. *Pfeil und Bogen : eine archäologisch-technologische
> Untersuchung zu urnenfelder- und hallstattzeitlichen Befunden*. Vol. *21*.
> Internationale Archäologie 0. Espelkamp: Leidorf.
>
> Pape, W. 1982. “Au sujet de quelques pointes de flèches en os.” In *L’Industrie
> en os et bois de Cervidé durant le Néolithique et l’âge des Métaux: Dexième
> réunion du Groupe de Travail No3 sur l’Industrie de l’os préhistorique,
> Saint-German-en-Laye, 1980*, edited by Henriette Camps-Fabrer, 135–172.
> Paris: Editions du CNRS.
>
> Here are some BA examples from Romania and Finland:
> Dietrich, L. 2013. “Projectile Weapons of the Late Bronze Age in the
> Eastern Europe. The Case of the Noua- Sabatinovka-Coslogeni Cultural
> Complex.” In *Archäologische Wanderungen Zwischen Ost- Und Westeuropa.
> Festschrift Tiberius Bader Zum 75. Geburtstag*, I:181–97. Satu Mare
> Studii şi Comunicări, seria Arheologie XXIX. SATU MARE: EDITURA MUZEULUI
> SĂTMĂREAN.
> https://www.academia.edu/7594543/Projectile_weapons_of_the_Late_Bronze_Age_in_the_Eastern_Europe_The_case_of_the_Noua_Sabatinovka_Coslogeni_cultural_complex
> .
>
> Ikäheimo, J.P., J. Joona, and M. Hietala. 2004. “Wretchedly Poor, but
> Amazingly Practical: Archaeological and Experimental Evidence on the Bone
> Arrowheads of the Fenni.” *Acta Borealia* 21 (1):3–20. doi:
> 10.1080/08003830410001840 <https://doi.org/10.1080/08003830410001840>.
>
> Iron Age in Central Europe:
> Chochorowski, J. 1985. “Die Rolle Der Vekerzug-Kultur (VK) Im Rahmen Der
> Skythischen Einflüsse in Mitteleuropa.” *Praehistorische Zeitschrift* 60
> (2):204–71. doi:10.1515/prhz.1985.60.2.204
> <https://doi.org/10.1515/prhz.1985.60.2.204>.
>
> - from Altai -
> Шульга, П.И. 2002. “Ранние Наконечники Стрел Из Курганов Скифского Времени
> На Алтае.” In *Материалы По Военной Археологии Алтая и Сопредельных
> Территорий: Сборник Научных Трудов*, edited by В. В. Горбунов and А. А.
> Тишкин, 43–61. Барнаул: Изд-во Алт. ун-та.
> https://www.academia.edu/26552207/%D0%A8%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D0%9F.%D0%98._%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B5_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2._%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BB_%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B4-%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82._%D1%83%D0%BD-%D1%82%D0%B0_2002._%D0%A1._43-61._.pdf
> .
> - and Tian Shan ...
> Иванов, С.С., and Т.Ж. Тулегенов. 2016. “Костяные (Роговые) Наконечники
> Стрел Ранних Кочевников Притяньшанья / The Bone (Horn) Arrowheads of
> Ancient Nomads of Tien Shan Region.” In *Саки и Савроматы Казахских
> Степей: Контакт Культур. Сборник Научных Статей, Посвященный Памяти
> Археолога Бекена Нурмуханбетова*, edited by А Онгарулы, 75–81. Алматы:
> Институт археологии им. А. Х. Маргулана.
> https://www.academia.edu/31443280/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8C%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8C%D1%8F_The_bone_horn_arrowheads_of_ancient_nomads_of_Tien_Shan_region
> .
>
> I am attaching those that are harder to get without institutional
> subscription.
> I hope these help as a starter.
> Best wishes to all,
> Petar
>
>
> --
> Petar Zidarov
>
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> <https://newbulgarian.academia.edu/PetarZidarov>
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Petar_Zidarov2
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9968-7786
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 23, 2025 at 11:55:37 PM GMT+2, Alice Choyke <
> choyke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are Chalcolithic examples of bone/ antler projectile points in
> Hungary from both Transdanubia and the Great Hungarian Plain. If you are
> interested I can send you pictures. Other than that, as far as I remember,
> only the Mongols used bone projectile points willingly. Outside Hungary
> there are many projectile points in bone and antler from Lake Dwelling
> sites across the alpine region. Petar - There is nothing like that from any
> phase of the Hungarian Bronze Age.
>
> Best,
> Alice
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025, 22:07 Selena Vitezović <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Petar,
>
> No - no traces of Bronze Age.
> But do you have any analogies?
>
> Best, Selena
>
> --
> dr Selena Vitezović
> Arheološki institut / Institute of Archaeology
> Kneza Mihaila 35
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kneza+Mihaila+35?entry=gmail&source=g>/IV,
> 11 000 Beograd RS
> www.ai.ac.rs
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, 16:18 Petar Zidarov, <petar.zidarov at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Selena!
> Nice find indeed. Any chance that you may have Bronze age there?
> Cheers, Petar
>
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> On чт, март 20, 2025 at 16:21, Selena Vitezović
> <selenavitezovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I hope you are all doing fine.
> I have an interesting find from the site of Remesiana, in southern Serbia.
> It looks like the tip of an arrow. The object was made from some large
> mammal long bone, upper part is fragmented and also in the basal part it is
> possible to see that the part used for inserting into the wooden part is
> fragmented as well.
> Now, the main problem is that this find comes from disturbed context, so
> the excavators are uncertain whether this is from the Iron Age or from Late
> Antiquity.
> Personally, I have never seen anything remotely resembling this,
> especially from the Iron Age or Antiquity - and the bone objects from the
> Iron Age in particular are virtually unknown in the area.
>
> Any help with analogies, references, etc. is much appreciated.
>
> thank you, kind regards, Selena
>
>
>
> --
> dr Selena Vitezović
> Arheološki institut / Institute of Archaeology
> Kneza Mihaila 35
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kneza+Mihaila+35?entry=gmail&source=g>/IV,
> 11 000 Beograd RS
> www.ai.ac.rs
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