[Bonetools] toggle harpoons

[Petar Zidarov]

Dear Selena,Frankly, I don't remember seeing traces from metal tools on the toggle harpoons in Pietrele and I guess such would have impressed me since from what I know there are neither knives, nor saws in the fifth millennium BC, wherever. Vučedol is good 1000-1500 years later and things could certainly look differently there.Please, keep us posted when you publish this interesting assemblage.
Have a nice week everyone!Petar
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    On Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 6:47:53 PM GMT+2, Selena Vitezović <selenavitezovic at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Dear Petar, 
Thanks for this, any little helps. At this moment, I am working on a collection from multi-layered site with main remains from Vučedol culture, but these harpoons are an intriguing question.It seems that they are not cultural, but chronological marker for Eneolithic and perhaps EBA  -widespread in several Eneolithic cultures in the South Carpahtian Basin. Those from Pietrele, do you rembember were they made with metal tools or not? The question of their function is also very interesting, were they for catching fish, and which one? 
best regards, Selena 
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 08:40, Petar Zidarov <petar.zidarov at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Selena,Unfortunately, I don't have my notes with me and I cannot check for exact references at the moment, but I found a 10 year old email in my inbox, where I have written to Alice and Jean-Marc Petillon that:
I have traced the distribution of the so called toggle harpoons (the antler tine based ones) all along Danube from the Delta to Southern Germany. So far, it seemed to me that the Romanian ones are the earliest, spreading gradually to the west (the latest in Germany date to the end of the third - early second mill BC), but also to the east ( I have found some from fourth mill context in the North Pontic steppes of Ukraine). However, interestingly enough there are none of them published on the Bulgarian side of Danube, although they are very common finds in the museums on the Romanian side.

Herewith, I am attaching an article with illustration on similar finds from Pietrele (4600-4300 BC). Monica certainly knows more sites (I have spotted plenty in Oltenita museum) and I guess there were some in Hungary. If I am not mistaken Chris Arabatsis also showed me some from Northern Greece. Even though they are earlier than yours, they provide an indication about the ecological niche where you should expect the most.
My suggestion is to check for sites along Danube and its tributaries (Sava), as well as big lakes/swamps like Ljubljansko barje, where you may expect really big fish. Small seals from the Black sea are also historically spotted up to the Iron Gorge, but I am not familar with any identification of such from zooarchaeological reports from archaeological sites along Danube. However, for the same reason you may expect some on the Adriatic coast.
I hope these notes take you somewhere.
Good luck!Petar
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    On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 8:21:22 PM GMT+2, Selena Vitezović <selenavitezovic at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Dear Vivian, 
I found these papers on harpoons, thank you. 

I would still love to get anything at all about antler toggle harpoons from SE Europe....
best regards, Selena 

On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 at 17:22, <scheinso at retina.ar> wrote:


Hi Selena

To begin with, I think Gerd Weniger has something ( although I guess SW Europe, look for '80-'90 papers at his RG page https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gerd-Christian_Weniger/contributions,  ). Also, for the eskimo ones, Danielle Stordeur ( not sure about antler )  

Best

 

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El 2018-07-07 14:45, Selena Vitezović escribió:

Dear colleagues,  I am looking for any publications about the toggle harpoons made from antler, preferably from SE Europe. Anything - simple mention, catalogue.... and, of course, if there is any paper that analyses them in detail.  Thanks in advance! 
On attachment: toggle harpoons from late Eneolithic / Early Bronze Age in South Carpathian basin, site of Sarvaš.  best regards, Selena  -- 
Selena Vitezović Arheološki institut www.ai.ac.rs
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