[Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 119, Issue 35
Miriam Luciañez Triviño
mlucianez at us.es
Wed Feb 24 17:29:40 CET 2016
Thank you very much, Sonia and Steve.
Bests,
Miriam
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Miriam Luciañez Triviño
Contrato Predoctoral del Gobierno Vasco
Departamento de Prehistoria y Arqueología
Universidad de Sevilla
María de Padilla s/n. 41004. Sevilla. Spain
Phone: (34) 954 556906
Fax: (34) 954 559920
E-mail: mlucianez at us.es
http://www.departamento.us.es/dpreyarq/web
http://www.grupo.us.es/atlas
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> 1. Help to identify the raw material of an artefact (part 2)
> (Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o)
> 2. Re: A Bone ?Pendant from Oxford (Dr C.M. Hills)
> 3. Re: Help to identify the raw material of an artefact (part 2)
> (Sonia O'Connor)
> 4. Re: Help to identify the raw material of an artefact (part 2)
> (Steve Ashby)
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> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:27:41 +0100
> From: Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o <mlucianez at us.es>
> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
> Subject: [Bonetools] Help to identify the raw material of an artefact
> (part 2)
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> Dear all,
>
> I would like to thank you for your suggestions and assessment,
> especially thank you Sonia for your evaluation. The documentation of
> this new material increase the number of osseous raw materials worked in
> this settlement. To have a more sure characterization... Could you
> suggest me the most suitable (not destructive, if possible) analytical
> method (or a combination of)?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Miriam
>
> --
>
> Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o
> Contrato Predoctoral del Gobierno Vasco
>
> Departamento de Prehistoria y Arqueolog?a
> Universidad de Sevilla
> Mar?a de Padilla s/n. 41004. Sevilla. Spain
> Phone: (34) 954 556906
> Fax: (34) 954 559920
>
> E-mail: mlucianez at us.es
> http://www.departamento.us.es/dpreyarq/web
> http://www.grupo.us.es/atlas
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> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:28:51 +0000
> From: "Dr C.M. Hills" <ch35 at cam.ac.uk>
> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] A Bone ?Pendant from Oxford
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> Dear Ian, Looks to me like the animals you get on 8th-9th c MSS and
> metalwork- Leslie Webster is expert on those. I think I can see a pair
> of beasts with heads, oval eyes and lappets between pairs of feathered
> feet- a pair of feet by suspension loop and another pair lower down. But
> it also looks very plant like! Try it on Leslie. Date would fit ok, esp
> as presumably discarded. Catherine
> On 24/02/2016 10:19, trzaska at lineone.net wrote:
>
>> This beautiful bone object has just emerged from an excavation in
>> Oxford. It is pierced laterally
>> at the apex and has a second perforation near the base, obscured by
>> corrosion. I haven't seen
>> anything like it and wonder if anybody has come across anything
>> similar. I don't have any context
>> details for it yet but, given that it came from Oxford, it is likely
>> to date from c AD 900 - 1500.
>>
>> Any help very gratefully received,
>>
>> Ian Riddler
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:51:05 +0000
> From: Sonia O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk>
> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Help to identify the raw material of an
> artefact (part 2)
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> Species identification by ZooMS. This is done by fingerprinting the peptides that make up the collagen protein using mass-spectrometry. Collagen is more likely to survive than DNA, is less effected by contamination and requires a much smaller sample (it is often not possible to see by eye where the sample has been removed, which is done using an eraser). It should be able to confirm the ID as cetacean but may not be able to give you the exact species. The team at BioACH at the University of York have had a lot of success with. You need to contact Dr Matthew Collins in the first instance matthew.collins at york.ac.uk<mailto:matthew.collins at york.ac.uk>
>
> All the best,
>
> Sonia
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of York
> Post-doctoral Researcher
> Archaeological Sciences
> Division of AGES,
> University of Bradford
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
> tel 01274 23 6498
>
> From: Bonetools [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o
> Sent: 24 February 2016 14:28
> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
> Subject: [Bonetools] Help to identify the raw material of an artefact (part 2)
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to thank you for your suggestions and assessment, especially thank you Sonia for your evaluation. The documentation of this new material increase the number of osseous raw materials worked in this settlement. To have a more sure characterization... Could you suggest me the most suitable (not destructive, if possible) analytical method (or a combination of)?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Miriam
> --
>
> Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o
> Contrato Predoctoral del Gobierno Vasco
>
> Departamento de Prehistoria y Arqueolog?a
> Universidad de Sevilla
> Mar?a de Padilla s/n. 41004. Sevilla. Spain
> Phone: (34) 954 556906
> Fax: (34) 954 559920
>
> E-mail: mlucianez at us.es<mailto:mlucianez at us.es>
> http://www.departamento.us.es/dpreyarq/web
> http://www.grupo.us.es/atlas
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:17:23 +0000
> From: Steve Ashby <steve.ashby at york.ac.uk>
> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Help to identify the raw material of an
> artefact (part 2)
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> You may need more than the eraser method, but samples still tiny.
>
> Steve
>
> On Wednesday, 24 February 2016, Sonia O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Species identification by ZooMS. This is done by fingerprinting the
>> peptides that make up the collagen protein using mass-spectrometry.
>> Collagen is more likely to survive than DNA, is less effected by
>> contamination and requires a much smaller sample (it is often not possible
>> to see by eye where the sample has been removed, which is done using an
>> eraser). It should be able to confirm the ID as cetacean but may not be
>> able to give you the exact species. The team at BioACH at the University
>> of York have had a lot of success with. You need to contact Dr Matthew
>> Collins in the first instance matthew.collins at york.ac.uk
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matthew.collins at york.ac.uk');>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Sonia
>>
>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>> of York
>>
>> Post-doctoral Researcher
>>
>> Archaeological Sciences
>>
>> Division of AGES,
>>
>> University of Bradford
>>
>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>>
>> tel 01274 23 6498
>>
>> *From:* Bonetools [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu');>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o
>> *Sent:* 24 February 2016 14:28
>> *To:* bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bonetools at listserv.niif.hu');>
>> *Subject:* [Bonetools] Help to identify the raw material of an artefact
>> (part 2)
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to thank you for your suggestions and assessment, especially
>> thank you Sonia for your evaluation. The documentation of this new material
>> increase the number of osseous raw materials worked in this settlement. To
>> have a more sure characterization... Could you suggest me the most suitable
>> (not destructive, if possible) analytical method (or a combination of)?
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Miriam
>>
>> --
>>
>> Miriam Lucia?ez Trivi?o
>> Contrato Predoctoral del Gobierno Vasco
>>
>> Departamento de Prehistoria y Arqueolog?a
>> Universidad de Sevilla
>> Mar?a de Padilla s/n. 41004. Sevilla. Spain
>> Phone: (34) 954 556906
>> Fax: (34) 954 559920
>>
>> E-mail: mlucianez at us.es <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mlucianez at us.es');>
>> http://www.departamento.us.es/dpreyarq/web
>> http://www.grupo.us.es/atlas
>
> --
> Steve Ashby
>
> Dr Steven P Ashby, FSA
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept of Archaeology
> University of York
> www.york.ac.uk/archaeology [1]
> @uoyarchaeology / @grungeviking
> Awards Officer, Finds Research Group
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