[Bonetools] Roman bone pin work waste
איתן איילון
etana at eretzmuseum.org.il
Tue May 13 06:06:44 CEST 2014
Dear Alice and everybody,
Don't forget to try any analysis possible on remains of brown-red material found on the tips of some Roman pins. Perhaps it will enable us to confirm or not whether some "pins" were used as kohl sticks etc. I have tried to do it in the Weizmann Institute and failed to get any clear answer, but it was 10 years ago.
Etan
From: Bonetools [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Alice Choyke
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:07 PM
To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Roman bone pin work waste
Dear Stephen,
Are you thinking about looking at those damned pins from the point of view of some sort of micro-use use wear analysis. I always found the typology of pins rather suspect as it seems to be rather rigid and does not look at the pins as having any sort of active biography from selection of raw material (where available) manufacture, use, re-use, curation and discard stages.
Cheers!
Alice
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:55 PM, <sjgreep at gmail.com<mailto:sjgreep at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Lena,
I,ve a lot of information on British pin manufacturing sites, but from your post it looks like you have a great assemblage. As Ian Ridler notes I published a workshop from Canterbury a while ago (a mid fourth century deposit), but I have a lot more data.
Most British evidence of pin manufacture comes from town sites, but there is some from rural sites - e.g. From the villa at Piddington) but most of this are isolated examples rather than complete workshop sequences.
If you'd like some more information and help let me know and I will help as much as I can. I've records of around 10,000 British bone hair pins and am about to embark on a project looking in more detail at some assemblages, so I would be very interested in hearing more about your finds in any case.
I see others have sent you some useful publications which are all good. We don't (yet) have a comparable catalogue from a uk site, but my PhD (alas unpublished) has a very large body of material.
Let me know if you'd like more detailed help - and I would be very interested from a personal point of view in any case
Stephen Greep
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> On 9 May 2014, at 13:44, Lena Strid <lena.strid at oxfordarch.co.uk<mailto:lena.strid at oxfordarch.co.uk>> wrote:
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> Dear all,
>
> I have a very large Roman deposit of chopped up long bones from making bone pins. The bones are mostly cattle and horse metapodials, radius and tibia. The deposit is sampled entirely, sieved down to 4mm, and contains everything from large proximal and distal ends down to broken-off hexagonal offcuts. It is a rural site, but very close to a Roman town in southern England.
>
> Would any of you have any tips on the most useful way to record the deposit and/or a good reference material. I already know of Vine St (Leicester) and Sagalassos (Turkey). There is unlikely to be time for me to do a in-depth analysis of the bone working procedure, but the assemblage would be retained for future research.
>
> With thanks,
> Lena
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