[Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 105, Issue 5

Fri Dec 19 17:20:52 CET 2014

Thank you Vinayak. I have received many suggestions of publications to look at, and if they contain any answer to that specific question I will let you know for sure.
Best,
Christian

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Hi Christian
Regarding your third question, I know some publications but they are not anthropological work instead they generally deals with laboratary work. Another thing is that in North India we frequently found heated bone objects from prehistoric and early historic periods. But problem is that no study has been conducted about this aspect and I am also looking to trace down the technology used by ancient people in my Ph.D. For this purpose I also conducted an small experiment during my M.Phil. but what I noticed that heat generally make's bone more brittle instead making it stronger. Thus, in my thinking ancient people might used some different technique  to heat these bone objects. If you have any other knowledge about this aspect than I will be pleased, if you can share it with me. 
Best 
VINAYAKCentre for Historical StudiesSchool of Social SciencesJawaharlal Nehru UniversityDelhi-110067, India  

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From: "Margaris, Amy V." <amy.margaris at oberlin.edu>
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Hi Christian,
In response to your first question: there's evidence of indigenous Alutiiq
peoples of Alaska using beaver and marmot incisors as carving bits.  I
don't know if actual use-wear analysis has been done on them though.

For more info, you can go to this website and do a page search for the word
"incisor."
http://www.afognak.org/heritage/history/history-intro.php?src=ancient-afognak

And here's the reference for Bob Kopperl's dissertation that talks about
marmot incisor tools as the Rice Ridge site, specifically:
Kopperl, Robert E.
2003 Cultural Complexity and Resource Intensification on Kodiak Island,
Alaska. Ph.D. dissertation, University of Washington. University
Microfilms, Ann Arbor.

Hope this helps!
Amy

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Christian Gates St-Pierre <
cgates70 at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have three questions for the price of one!
>
> First: does anyone know about some use-wear analysis on bone tools made
> out of beaver incisors? (beside Parmigiani & Alvarez-Soncini [2014], of
> which I already have a copy).
>
> Second: does anyone have a pdf copy of the following (it is not available
> through our network of North American university libraries, and I can't
> find it on the web): *P?trequin & Rachez (1997), ?Un biseau naturel:
> l'incisive de castor?, in Les sites littoraux n?olithqiues de Clarivaux et
> de Chalain (Jura), III, Chalain station 3, 3200-2900 av. J.C.* (published
> by the Maison des sciences de l'Homme, in Paris)?
>
> Third: does anyone know about some recent publications dealing with the
> use of heat (fire) as a technique of hardening (and darkening) bone
> materials/bone tools, especially in opposition to the total carbonisation
> of bones which will have the opposing effect (i.e. weakening the bone
> structure and triggering it's fragmentation)? I know of some ?old?
> references (pre-year 2000), but I was wondering if there was some more
> recent publications on this precise subject?
>
> Any help regarding anyone of these queries would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays to all!
>
> Christian
>
>
> *Christian Gates St-Pierre*, PhD
> Invited Researcher
> D?partement d'anthropologie
> Universit? de Montr?al
> christian.gates-st-pierre at umontreal.ca
>
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Amy V. Margaris
Assistant Professor of Anthropology
Oberlin College

Fall 2014 Office Hours:
MWF 3:30-4:30 or by appointment
King 302

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And I believe there are several 19th c. ethnographies  that describe the
same thing. I will check my references tomorrow and let you know - thanks
for the reminder.

Alice

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Margaris, Amy V. <amy.margaris at oberlin.edu>
wrote:
>
> Hi Christian,
> In response to your first question: there's evidence of indigenous Alutiiq
> peoples of Alaska using beaver and marmot incisors as carving bits.  I
> don't know if actual use-wear analysis has been done on them though.
>
> For more info, you can go to this website and do a page search for the
> word "incisor."
>
> http://www.afognak.org/heritage/history/history-intro.php?src=ancient-afognak
>
> And here's the reference for Bob Kopperl's dissertation that talks about
> marmot incisor tools as the Rice Ridge site, specifically:
> Kopperl, Robert E.
> 2003 Cultural Complexity and Resource Intensification on Kodiak Island,
> Alaska. Ph.D. dissertation, University of Washington. University
> Microfilms, Ann Arbor.
>
> Hope this helps!
> Amy
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Christian Gates St-Pierre <
> cgates70 at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have three questions for the price of one!
>>
>> First: does anyone know about some use-wear analysis on bone tools made
>> out of beaver incisors? (beside Parmigiani & Alvarez-Soncini [2014], of
>> which I already have a copy).
>>
>> Second: does anyone have a pdf copy of the following (it is not available
>> through our network of North American university libraries, and I can't
>> find it on the web): *P?trequin & Rachez (1997), ?Un biseau naturel:
>> l'incisive de castor?, in Les sites littoraux n?olithqiues de Clarivaux et
>> de Chalain (Jura), III, Chalain station 3, 3200-2900 av. J.C.*
>> (published by the Maison des sciences de l'Homme, in Paris)?
>>
>> Third: does anyone know about some recent publications dealing with the
>> use of heat (fire) as a technique of hardening (and darkening) bone
>> materials/bone tools, especially in opposition to the total carbonisation
>> of bones which will have the opposing effect (i.e. weakening the bone
>> structure and triggering it's fragmentation)? I know of some ?old?
>> references (pre-year 2000), but I was wondering if there was some more
>> recent publications on this precise subject?
>>
>> Any help regarding anyone of these queries would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays to all!
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> *Christian Gates St-Pierre*, PhD
>> Invited Researcher
>> D?partement d'anthropologie
>> Universit? de Montr?al
>> christian.gates-st-pierre at umontreal.ca
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bonetools mailing list
>> Bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
>> https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools
>>
>>
>
> --
> Amy V. Margaris
> Assistant Professor of Anthropology
> Oberlin College
>
> Fall 2014 Office Hours:
> MWF 3:30-4:30 or by appointment
> King 302
>
>
> http://new.oberlin.edu/arts-and-sciences/departments/anthropology/
>
>
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