[Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 90, Issue 19
richard lausberg
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Mon Sep 30 13:52:12 CEST 2013
Has the site at one time been submerged by seawater? The holes bare a
simmilarity with the holes Barnea candida make in wood, stone and bone.
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> 1. Re: Strange holes in the bones (SA O'Connor)
> 2. Re: Strange holes in the bones (Eva David)
> 3. Re: Strange holes in the bones (Christian K?chelmann)
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> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:19:07 +0100
> From: SA O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk>
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> Dear Therese,
>
> Given the eroded appearance of the edges of the bone fragments and the
> crisp edges of the drilled holes, could these holes be modern? Could
> they be the result of post-excavation sampling?
>
> All the best,
>
> Sonia
>
> Quoting Therese Ekholm <therese.ekholm at arkeologi.uu.se>:
>
> > To whom it may concern
> >
> > My name is Therese Ekholm and I am a PhD student at Uppsala
> > University. I have some questions and I hope you can help me. In the
> > osteological material that I work with I found some strange holes in
> > the bones that can not be natural. The material is burnt and the
> > pieces of bones are very small in general and the bones with holes
> > are about one centimeter. The holes, that seem to be drilled, are
> > one to one and a half millimeters. The sides of the holes are not
> > damaged and do not have any traces of wear and tear. All of them are
> > drilled from the outer surface but not all of them are drilled all
> > the way through the bone. Do you have an idea of what it can be? I
> > send you some photos but I could only make them black and white with
> > the microscope. The site is dated to around 7000 BC and it is not
> > very common to find bones in that area, especially worked bones.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Therese Ekholm
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:45:23 +0200
> From: Eva David <eva.david at mae.u-paris10.fr>
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> Dear Therese Ekholm,
>
> Would it be possible that your fragments are related to a deposit made by
> animals (hyena, prey birds...) ?
> Some animals eat the bones and reject them in the form of tiny perforated
> pieces, just like yours as from the pictures you send.
> Firmly regular perforations issued then from chemical process of gastric
> juce contained in stomach that dissolves bone.
> Even large mammal bone/antler can be modified such a way, while these
> animals usually breaking the bones before eating them.
>
> Some references :
> -Peter Andrews (1990) Owls, caves and fossiles. Edmundsbury Press LtD.
> -Isabelle Robert and Jean-Denis Vigne (2002) The bearbed Vulture (Gypaetus
> barbatus) as an accumulator of archaeological bones. Late glacial
> assemblages and present-day reference datta in Corsica (western
> mediterranean). Journal of Archaeological Sciences 29.
> -Francesco d'Errico and Paola Villa (1997) Holes and grooves : the
> contribution of microscopy and taphonomy to the problem of art origins.
> Journal of human evolution 33.
>
> Hope you will find throughout theses publications method thank to which
> you can make evidences clear.
> With all my best regards,
> ?va david
>
>
> Le 29 sept. 2013 ? 18:42, Therese Ekholm a ?crit :
>
> > <L?pnr 3.jpg>
>
> Dr. ?va DAVID
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> T?l/Fax : +33 / (0)1 46 69 24 22?
> www.mae.u-paris10.fr/prehistoire/spip.php?article17
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> From: Christian K?chelmann <info at knochenarbeit.de>
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> Dear Therese,
>
> seconding Eva, I am not sure if the holes you showed cannot be
> natural. They look very much like boreholes of insect larvae to me
> (most probably dermestid beatles). See the following references for
> comparable traces and also a picture below:
>
> Britt, Brooks B. / Scheetz, Rodney D. / Dangerfield, Anne (2008): A
> Suite of Dermestid Beetle Traces on dinosaur Bone from the Upper
> Jurassic Morrison Formation, Wyoming, USA
>
> BEHRENSMEYER, ANNA KAY (1978): Taphonomic and ecologic information
> from bone weathering. - Paleobiology 4(2), 150-162, Chicago
>
> Keiler, John Albrecht (2002): Bedeutende Fossilvorkommen des Quart?rs
> in Th?ringen. Teil 3: Insekten. ? Beitrage Geologie Th?ringen Neue
> Folge 9, 173-186
>
> Martin, Larry D. & West, Dixie L. (1995): The recognition and use of
> dermetsid (Insecta, Coleoptera) pupation chambers in paleoecology. ?
> Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology 113, 303-310
>
> TOBIEN, HEINZ (1965): Insekten-Fra?spuren an terti?ren und
> pleistoz?nen S?ugetier-Knochen. - Senckenbergiana lethaea 46a,
> 441-451, Frankfurt (Main)
>
> Best
>
> Christian
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> Am 29.09.2013 um 18:42 schrieb Therese Ekholm:
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> > To whom it may concern
> >
> > My name is Therese Ekholm and I am a PhD student at Uppsala
> > University. I have some questions and I hope you can help me. In
> > the osteological material that I work with I found some strange
> > holes in the bones that can not be natural. The material is burnt
> > and the pieces of bones are very small in general and the bones
> > with holes are about one centimeter. The holes, that seem to be
> > drilled, are one to one and a half millimeters. The sides of the
> > holes are not damaged and do not have any traces of wear and tear.
> > All of them are drilled from the outer surface but not all of them
> > are drilled all the way through the bone. Do you have an idea of
> > what it can be? I send you some photos but I could only make them
> > black and white with the microscope. The site is dated to around
> > 7000 BC and it is not very common to find bones in that area,
> > especially worked bones.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Therese Ekholm
> >
> > <L?pnr 3 n?got ljusare.jpg><L?pnr 3.jpg><L?pnr 15.jpg><L?pnr 33
> > snett.jpg><L?pnr 33.jpg>
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