[Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?

Mon Mar 4 13:11:29 CET 2013

Thank you Selena!

Unfortunately, since I have a different kind of job right now, I don't have
much time to work on bone tools..but in the near future my plan is to work
on other bone material from Varažin museum (since noone has untill now), so
I will probably beg for help..

Best..,
Maja

2013/3/4 Selena Vitezovic <selenavitezovic at gmail.com>

> Dear Maja,
>
> Unrelated to the artefact with several perforations - your bone beads are
> very similar to the material I am currently working on, Bronze Age
> necropolis from Ostojićevo, Banat (Mures culture, roughly contemporary with
> Mokrin). The necropolis also had a large number of perforated teeth, mainly
> from dog, therefore your perforated teeth may be also attributed to the
> Bronze Age.
>
> best regards, Selena
>
> On 4 March 2013 12:49, Maja G. <majagrguric at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I couldn't seem to find the time to send you the picture of a very
>> similar object found in Cave Vindija, from northwestern Croatia. Here is a
>> text (in croatian, but there is a shor summary in english in the end) from
>> the poster a made a few years ago, about the bone artefact finds from upper
>> layer of the cave. Unfortunately, the stratigrafy is not clear. There is
>> also a drawing of the same type of object found in the Early Bronze Age
>> Austrian necropolis, wich I used as help for age determination. There was
>> no other info about the object from Austria. I hope it helps.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Maja Grgurić, dipl.arh.
>>
>> Vektra d.o.o.
>> B. Vodnika 4B
>> Varaždin
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/4 Etan Ayalon <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il>
>>
>>> By the way, on October 30, 2012 Putelat Oliviers sent a mail about a
>>> piece of bone with a rather similar row of holes, found in an Iron Age salt
>>> works in Lorrain, France. You, Sonia, had a suggestion for its use.****
>>>
>>> Etan****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
>>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *S O'Connor
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:31 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* 'Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>>> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
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>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I will ask Erik if he can be any more precise about the date.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Sonia****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>>> of York****
>>>
>>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow****
>>>
>>> Archaeological Sciences****
>>>
>>> Division of AGES,  ****
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>>> University of Bradford****
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>>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK****
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>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>>> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Etan Ayalon
>>>
>>> *Sent:* 03 March 2013 06:22
>>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for
>>> thestudy of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> What is the date of this object?****
>>>
>>> Etan****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [
>>> mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu<bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Selena Vitezovic
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 01, 2013 6:50 PM
>>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>>> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> There is a paper from M. Meneses Fernandez on similar objects (although
>>> from Neolithic), with experimental results, in the volume "Trace et
>>> fonction: les gestes retrouvés", eds. P. Anderson, S. Beyries, M. Otte and
>>> H, Plisson.
>>>
>>> best regards, Selena ****
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2013 17:45, S O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk> wrote:****
>>>
>>> Thank you for these observations François, I will pass them on to Erik.*
>>> ***
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> All the best,****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Sonia****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>>> of York****
>>>
>>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow****
>>>
>>> Archaeological Sciences****
>>>
>>> Division of AGES,  ****
>>>
>>> University of Bradford****
>>>
>>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
>>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *François Poplin
>>> *Sent:* 01 March 2013 14:33
>>> *To:* bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Indeed, the worn of the "entire broken" end is more moticeable than the
>>> wear of the "last" (complete) hole (it's clear that another, a "more last"
>>> hole was there, and necessarily - the thing won't break between to holes).
>>> The wear of the inter-hole may be due to a leather strap/band rather than
>>> to a thread, for the worn spreads widely in the hole (and not causing an
>>> ogival bay). That makes me think of an attachment for hanging the piece or,
>>> rather, for attaching something to it, as in a "porte clés". Again, the
>>> whole worn of that end is the more important thing; maybe was the break
>>> rasped first in orther to make it "flat", to get rid of the irregularity.
>>>
>>> the repeated drill-holes (made with the same drill, I suppose) did not
>>> receive moving thread, string, as they show no worn - but, for the same
>>> rason, they coud have received firm bars of wood, for instance, as in a
>>> ladder. I don't dare to thing that this was just an exercise of drilling...
>>> : after the break, maybe, not before; and the hole are too regurlarly
>>> distrbuited (in line and in equidistance)
>>>
>>> Inbetween, the clok has run.. I have to stop.
>>>
>>> Your's.
>>>
>>> Le 01/03/2013 13:37, S O'Connor a écrit : ****
>>>
>>> Dear All,****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> I am forwarding on this enquiry from a student at the University of
>>> Durham.  I have objects like this, but not so thick, in wood and plastic on
>>> which I store my different coloured threads when I am working on an
>>> embroidery project.  However the pattern of wear does not really support
>>> this use.  Perhaps the wear and polish at the broken end suggests a reuse
>>> of something originally made for an entirely different purpose.  If you
>>> have any suggestions or parallels, please let me know and I will forward
>>> them on to Erik.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> All the best,****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Sonia****
>>>
>>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>>> of York****
>>>
>>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow****
>>>
>>> Archaeological Sciences****
>>>
>>> Division of AGES,  ****
>>>
>>> University of Bradford****
>>>
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>>>
>>>  ****
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>>>
>>> Dear Dr. O'Connor,
>>>
>>> My name is Erik Farrell; I am a student in the MA Artefact Conservation
>>> programme at Durham university, and am currently working on identifying a
>>> bone object for the Durham Oriental Museum. I suspect it to be either a
>>> tool associated with textile manufacture, or potentially an oddly shaped
>>> spacer bead, but because of the poor survival rate of textile tools am
>>> having a difficult time finding any comparable examples. I contacted Dr.
>>> Mary Brooks here at Durham, and she recommended I contact you as someone
>>> with expertise in both bone artefacts and textiles.
>>>
>>> The object is made of bone; I am working on getting a species
>>> identification, but have managed to rule out ivory. It is from Egypt, but
>>> it is from an older collection, so I do not yet have a date range or
>>> cultural period.
>>>
>>> You can see in the photos that the broken end is tapered on the
>>> surviving piece, and looks like it would have come to a point or a rounded
>>> point. There are holes along the entire length, but only the hole at the
>>> complete end shows wear; it looks like it has been worn by a thread passing
>>> through the hole, wrapped around the back end of the object. It is this
>>> wear pattern that makes me think textile manufacture may be an option. I
>>> don't really know what to make of the lack of comparable wear in the other
>>> holes.
>>>
>>> I have attached the artefact photos and a scan of the archaeological
>>> drawing to this email. I am hoping your background and knowledge of bone
>>> objects and textile production may give some insight on potential uses for
>>> this object. I have also included a couple photos of breaks under the
>>> microscope on the chance that you might be able to give some insight into
>>> what sort of bone this is, but I know that sort of identification is
>>> usually done with the object in hand. Any information you can give me -
>>> even if it is just speculation on potential uses for a tool of this size
>>> and shape - would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much,
>>>
>>> Erik Farrell****
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