[Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?

[Selena Vitezovic]

Dear Maja,

Unrelated to the artefact with several perforations - your bone beads are
very similar to the material I am currently working on, Bronze Age
necropolis from Ostojićevo, Banat (Mures culture, roughly contemporary with
Mokrin). The necropolis also had a large number of perforated teeth, mainly
from dog, therefore your perforated teeth may be also attributed to the
Bronze Age.

best regards, Selena

On 4 March 2013 12:49, Maja G. <majagrguric at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I couldn't seem to find the time to send you the picture of a very similar
> object found in Cave Vindija, from northwestern Croatia. Here is a text (in
> croatian, but there is a shor summary in english in the end) from the
> poster a made a few years ago, about the bone artefact finds from upper
> layer of the cave. Unfortunately, the stratigrafy is not clear. There is
> also a drawing of the same type of object found in the Early Bronze Age
> Austrian necropolis, wich I used as help for age determination. There was
> no other info about the object from Austria. I hope it helps.
>
> Best regards,
> Maja Grgurić, dipl.arh.
>
> Vektra d.o.o.
> B. Vodnika 4B
> Varaždin
>
>
> 2013/3/4 Etan Ayalon <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il>
>
>> By the way, on October 30, 2012 Putelat Oliviers sent a mail about a
>> piece of bone with a rather similar row of holes, found in an Iron Age salt
>> works in Lorrain, France. You, Sonia, had a suggestion for its use.****
>>
>> Etan****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *S O'Connor
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:31 PM
>>
>> *To:* 'Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.'
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I will ask Erik if he can be any more precise about the date.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sonia****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>> of York****
>>
>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow****
>>
>> Archaeological Sciences****
>>
>> Division of AGES,  ****
>>
>> University of Bradford****
>>
>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK****
>>
>> ** **
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>> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)****
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>> fax 01274 23 5210****
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>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Etan Ayalon
>>
>> *Sent:* 03 March 2013 06:22
>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for thestudy
>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What is the date of this object?****
>>
>> Etan****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [
>> mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu<bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Selena Vitezovic
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 01, 2013 6:50 PM
>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> There is a paper from M. Meneses Fernandez on similar objects (although
>> from Neolithic), with experimental results, in the volume "Trace et
>> fonction: les gestes retrouvés", eds. P. Anderson, S. Beyries, M. Otte and
>> H, Plisson.
>>
>> best regards, Selena ****
>>
>> On 1 March 2013 17:45, S O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk> wrote:****
>>
>> Thank you for these observations François, I will pass them on to Erik.**
>> **
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> All the best,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Sonia****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>> of York****
>>
>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow****
>>
>> Archaeological Sciences****
>>
>> Division of AGES,  ****
>>
>> University of Bradford****
>>
>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)****
>>
>> fax 01274 23 5210****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *François Poplin
>> *Sent:* 01 March 2013 14:33
>> *To:* bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] FW: Bone object - textile manufacture?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Indeed, the worn of the "entire broken" end is more moticeable than the
>> wear of the "last" (complete) hole (it's clear that another, a "more last"
>> hole was there, and necessarily - the thing won't break between to holes).
>> The wear of the inter-hole may be due to a leather strap/band rather than
>> to a thread, for the worn spreads widely in the hole (and not causing an
>> ogival bay). That makes me think of an attachment for hanging the piece or,
>> rather, for attaching something to it, as in a "porte clés". Again, the
>> whole worn of that end is the more important thing; maybe was the break
>> rasped first in orther to make it "flat", to get rid of the irregularity.
>>
>> the repeated drill-holes (made with the same drill, I suppose) did not
>> receive moving thread, string, as they show no worn - but, for the same
>> rason, they coud have received firm bars of wood, for instance, as in a
>> ladder. I don't dare to thing that this was just an exercise of drilling...
>> : after the break, maybe, not before; and the hole are too regurlarly
>> distrbuited (in line and in equidistance)
>>
>> Inbetween, the clok has run.. I have to stop.
>>
>> Your's.
>>
>> Le 01/03/2013 13:37, S O'Connor a écrit : ****
>>
>> Dear All,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I am forwarding on this enquiry from a student at the University of
>> Durham.  I have objects like this, but not so thick, in wood and plastic on
>> which I store my different coloured threads when I am working on an
>> embroidery project.  However the pattern of wear does not really support
>> this use.  Perhaps the wear and polish at the broken end suggests a reuse
>> of something originally made for an entirely different purpose.  If you
>> have any suggestions or parallels, please let me know and I will forward
>> them on to Erik.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> All the best,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Sonia****
>>
>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
>> of York****
>>
>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow****
>>
>> Archaeological Sciences****
>>
>> Division of AGES,  ****
>>
>> University of Bradford****
>>
>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)****
>>
>> fax 01274 23 5210****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Dear Dr. O'Connor,
>>
>> My name is Erik Farrell; I am a student in the MA Artefact Conservation
>> programme at Durham university, and am currently working on identifying a
>> bone object for the Durham Oriental Museum. I suspect it to be either a
>> tool associated with textile manufacture, or potentially an oddly shaped
>> spacer bead, but because of the poor survival rate of textile tools am
>> having a difficult time finding any comparable examples. I contacted Dr.
>> Mary Brooks here at Durham, and she recommended I contact you as someone
>> with expertise in both bone artefacts and textiles.
>>
>> The object is made of bone; I am working on getting a species
>> identification, but have managed to rule out ivory. It is from Egypt, but
>> it is from an older collection, so I do not yet have a date range or
>> cultural period.
>>
>> You can see in the photos that the broken end is tapered on the surviving
>> piece, and looks like it would have come to a point or a rounded point.
>> There are holes along the entire length, but only the hole at the complete
>> end shows wear; it looks like it has been worn by a thread passing through
>> the hole, wrapped around the back end of the object. It is this wear
>> pattern that makes me think textile manufacture may be an option. I don't
>> really know what to make of the lack of comparable wear in the other holes.
>>
>> I have attached the artefact photos and a scan of the archaeological
>> drawing to this email. I am hoping your background and knowledge of bone
>> objects and textile production may give some insight on potential uses for
>> this object. I have also included a couple photos of breaks under the
>> microscope on the chance that you might be able to give some insight into
>> what sort of bone this is, but I know that sort of identification is
>> usually done with the object in hand. Any information you can give me -
>> even if it is just speculation on potential uses for a tool of this size
>> and shape - would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Erik Farrell****
>>
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