[Bonetools] object decorated with dice

[fiona beglane]

So if it is a stylus, and it has dice on it, maybe it was for recording scores in a game?
Fiona
 


 


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> From: Alice Choyke <Choyke at ceu.hu>
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>Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice
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>Yes - well I got the idea directly from bone objects on display in the museum at Whitby so apparently not all colleagues in Britian have gotten the message - or the displays haven't been touched since 1960! 
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>Cheers! 
>Alice
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>>>> "trzaska at lineone.net" <trzaska at lineone.net> 6/13/2012 10:29 AM >>>
>Hello Alice,
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>I ought to point out that we invented the idea of the parchment pricker in England around 1990, 
>but we have also now abandoned it ! The objects that were thought to be parchment prickers are now 
>regarded as styli, and I suspect the German object is also a stylus, for use with a wax tablet. 
>Small text on styli enclosed,
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>Ian Riddler
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>>From: choyke at ceu.hu
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>>Date: 12/06/2012 14:03 
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>>To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of
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>>object and waste of bone,
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>>antler. ivory and horn."<bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
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>>Subj: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice
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>>It certainly is the right size and shae for the objects used as parchment
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>>prickers for laying out manuscripts. Is the idea of the excavator that
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>>this tool would be used on a wax tablet for scores?
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>>Alice
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>>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <
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>>marloesrijkelijkhuizen at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>  Dear all,
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>>> Thank you for your comments. I have received some pictures from another
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>>> viewpoint.
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>>> The excavator thinks it could be writing equipment for keeping scores for
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>>> example.
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>>> The date is uncertain, but late medieval. The context is the court of a
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>>> castle.
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>>> With best wishes,
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>>> Marloes
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>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:14:47 +0200
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>>> From: choyke at ceu.hu
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>>> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
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>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice
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>>> Marloes - is there any kind of provenience or date on that object?
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>>> A.
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>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Etan Ayalon <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il>wrote:
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>>> **
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>>> Perhaps it's too thick and short to be a [hair pin]? possibly a stylus? As
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>>> for the dice, keep in mind their connection to *luck*, so why not carve
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>>> it on an object, like a *hamsa *(hand palm) and many other symbols?
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>>> Etan
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>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
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>>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Alice Choyke
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>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 11:35 PM
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>>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
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>>> ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice
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>>>   That is one of the wierdest things I have ever seen.
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>>>
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>>> Alice
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>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <
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>>> marloesrijkelijkhuizen at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>  Dear all,
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>>> A question from a German colleague.
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>>> This object is 6,6 cm long, diameter of the shaft is 0,4 cm. The dice are
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>>> circa 0,6 x 0,7 cm.
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>>> Has anyone of you seen such a piece before, or has any other information?
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>>> With best wishes,
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>>> Marloes
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