<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>So if it is a stylus, and it has dice on it, maybe it was for recording scores in a game?</span></div><div><span>Fiona</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div></div><div> </div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal"><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;' lang="EN-US"><br></span> </div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family:
times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Alice Choyke <Choyke@ceu.hu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> bonetools@listserv.niif.hu <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:12 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv754159123">
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<div>Yes - well I got the idea directly from bone objects on display in the museum at Whitby so apparently not all colleagues in Britian have gotten the message - or the displays haven't been touched since 1960!</div>
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<div>Alice<br><br>>>> "trzaska@lineone.net" <trzaska@lineone.net> 6/13/2012 10:29 AM >>><br>Hello Alice,<br><br>I ought to point out that we invented the idea of the parchment pricker in England around 1990, <br>but we have also now abandoned it ! The objects that were thought to be parchment prickers are now <br>regarded as styli, and I suspect the German object is also a stylus, for use with a wax tablet. <br>Small text on styli enclosed,<br><br><br><br>Ian Riddler<br><br><br><br>>----Original Message----<br><br>>From: choyke@ceu.hu<br><br>>Date: 12/06/2012 14:03 <br><br>>To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of<br><br>>object and waste of bone,<br><br>>antler. ivory and horn."<bonetools@listserv.niif.hu><br><br>>Subj: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<br><br>><br><br>>It certainly is the right size and shae for the objects used as
parchment<br><br>>prickers for laying out manuscripts. Is the idea of the excavator that<br><br>>this tool would be used on a wax tablet for scores?<br><br>><br><br>>Alice<br><br>><br><br>>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<br><br>>marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com> wrote:<br><br>><br><br>>> Dear all,<br><br>>><br><br>>> Thank you for your comments. I have received some pictures from another<br><br>>> viewpoint.<br><br>>> The excavator thinks it could be writing equipment for keeping scores for<br><br>>> example.<br><br>>><br><br>>> The date is uncertain, but late medieval. The context is the court of a<br><br>>> castle.<br><br>>><br><br>>> With best wishes,<br><br>>> Marloes<br><br>>><br><br>>> ------------------------------<br><br>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:14:47 +0200<br><br>>> From:
choyke@ceu.hu<br><br>>> To: bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<br><br>>><br><br>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<br><br>>><br><br>>> Marloes - is there any kind of provenience or date on that object?<br><br>>><br><br>>> A.<br><br>>><br><br>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Etan Ayalon <etana@eretzmuseum.org.il>wrote:<br><br>>><br><br>>> **<br><br>>> Perhaps it's too thick and short to be a [hair pin]? possibly a stylus? As<br><br>>> for the dice, keep in mind their connection to *luck*, so why not carve<br><br>>> it on an object, like a *hamsa *(hand palm) and many other symbols?<br><br>>> Etan<br><br>>><br><br>>> ------------------------------<br><br>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu [mailto:<br><br>>> bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Alice Choyke<br><br>>> *Sent:* Monday, June
11, 2012 11:35 PM<br><br>>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study<br><br>>> ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.<br><br>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<br><br>>><br><br>>> That is one of the wierdest things I have ever seen.<br><br>>><br><br>>> Alice<br><br>>><br><br>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<br><br>>> marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com> wrote:<br><br>>><br><br>>> Dear all,<br><br>>><br><br>>> A question from a German colleague.<br><br>>> This object is 6,6 cm long, diameter of the shaft is 0,4 cm. The dice are<br><br>>> circa 0,6 x 0,7 cm.<br><br>>><br><br>>> Has anyone of you seen such a piece before, or has any other information?<br><br>>><br><br>>> With best wishes,<br><br>>>
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