[Bonetools] cross_bone_?

[Günther Karl Kunst]

Dear all!
Thank you for observations and comments; I will communicate them to 
Sabine Felgenhauer and suggest better pictures.
have a nice week
Karl

S O'Connor schrieb:
> Thanks Ian. Fascinating as ever.
>
> Sonia
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of York
> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
> Archaeological Sciences
> Division of AGES,
> University of Bradford
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
> fax 01274 23 5210
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of trzaska at lineone.net
> Sent: 07 June 2012 13:02
> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] cross_bone_?
>
> Dear Gunther,
>
> It might be a chess piece, although the decoration would be very unusual for that purpose (if not unique). It could also be a playing piece for a different game. Here is a pdf of a 1995 text that I wrote about the English series of chess pieces, for anybody who is vaguely interested in this sort of thing,
>
>
>
> All best wishes,
>
>
>
> Ian Riddler
>
>
>
>> ----Original Message----
>> From: guenther.karl.kunst at univie.ac.at
>> Date: 06/06/2012 15:32
>> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> study of
>> 	object and waste of bone,
>> 	antler. ivory and horn."<bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> Subj: Re: [Bonetools] cross_bone_?
>> Dear Sonia, Alice and Salima,
>> thank you so much for suggestions and observations. Walrus would be an
>> option, it is the far north of Austria (bordering to the "Czech
>> Canada"). Better images are being made, I will communicate your ideas
>> to
>> the excavator.
>> all the best
>> Karl
>> S O'Connor schrieb:
>>> Dear Karl,
>>> It is difficult to see enough detail from these images but there is a
>>> possibility they this is walrus ivory - there seems to be a
>>> distinction
>>> between featureless material and an area with a whorled structure.
>>> Antler
>>> pedicle can also show a similar combination of features but to carry
>>> this
>>> forward I would need to see better images of these different areas
>>> and the
>>> junction between them at higher magnification (with a scale if you can).
>>> The colour could be deliberate staining or due to the burial
>>> environment.  I
>>> have had some walrus ivory playing pieces that look like dark amber.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sonia
>>> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow,
>>> University of
>>> York
>>> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
>>> Archaeological Sciences
>>> Division of AGES,
>>> University of Bradford
>>> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>>> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
>>> fax 01274 23 5210
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>>> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Günther Karl
>>> Kunst
>>> Sent: 04 June 2012 11:32
>>> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>>> study of
>>> object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>>> Subject: [Bonetools] cross_bone_?
>>> Der Alice and all!
>>> Unfortunately, this is not meant as an immediate reponse concerning a
>>> bonetool of the month, because the circumstances (stray find),
>>> property
>>> issues and identity (material) are still too vague. It was found by a
>>> local
>>> collector in the vicinity of a former castle in a (nowadays) remote
>>> area of
>>> northern Lower Austria. It was shown to me by Sabine Felgenhauer from
>>> the
>>> prehistoric department who carries out excavations in the castle area
>>> (pottery of High Medieval - 11th-13th c). The oblong object, with a
>>> cross-engraving on both sides, feels "warm" haptically and has been
>>> worked
>>> (file, saw, ...) all over its surface, and I think/hope it is an
>>> animal
>>> tissue, but not quite sure about that. No original surface left, and
>>> what is
>>> the meaning of the "structural lines"
>>> (dentine-ivory, antler?)? Excavator put forward ideas about a gaming
>>> piece/chessman. I attach several pictures I took under not quite
>>> ideal
>>> cicrumstances.
>>> Any suggestions welcome!
>>> all the best
>>> Karl
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