[Bonetools] cross_bone_?

[Arjan]

http://blog.amsterdammuseum.nl/?p=5854

This is a chess piece found in Amsterdam near the former city gate
Olofspoort in a moat from the period between 1375 and 1425. It's made of
bone and represents the knight.

Arjan

Kijk hier <http://ahm.adlibsoft.com/ahmonline/dispatcher.aspx?action=search&database=ChoiceCollect&search=priref=48285>voor
meer informatie over dit objec

2012/6/7 trzaska at lineone.net <trzaska at lineone.net>

> Dear Gunther,
>
> It might be a chess piece, although the decoration would be very unusual
> for that purpose (if not
> unique). It could also be a playing piece for a different game. Here is a
> pdf of a 1995 text that I
> wrote about the English series of chess pieces, for anybody who is vaguely
> interested in this sort
> of thing,
>
>
>
> All best wishes,
>
>
>
> Ian Riddler
>
>
>
> >----Original Message----
>
> >From: guenther.karl.kunst at univie.ac.at
>
> >Date: 06/06/2012 15:32
>
> >To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
> of
>
> >       object and waste of bone,
>
> >       antler. ivory and horn."<bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>
> >Subj: Re: [Bonetools] cross_bone_?
>
> >
>
> >Dear Sonia, Alice and Salima,
>
> >thank you so much for suggestions and observations. Walrus would be an
>
> >option, it is the far north of Austria (bordering to the "Czech
>
> >Canada"). Better images are being made, I will communicate your ideas to
>
> >the excavator.
>
> >all the best
>
> >Karl
>
> >
>
> >S O'Connor schrieb:
>
> >> Dear Karl,
>
> >>
>
> >> It is difficult to see enough detail from these images but there is a
>
> >> possibility they this is walrus ivory - there seems to be a distinction
>
> >> between featureless material and an area with a whorled structure.
>  Antler
>
> >> pedicle can also show a similar combination of features but to carry
> this
>
> >> forward I would need to see better images of these different areas and
> the
>
> >> junction between them at higher magnification (with a scale if you can).
>
> >> The colour could be deliberate staining or due to the burial
> environment.  I
>
> >> have had some walrus ivory playing pieces that look like dark amber.
>
> >>
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >>
>
> >> Sonia
>
> >>
>
> >> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University
> of
>
> >> York
>
> >> Post-doctoral Research Fellow
>
> >> Archaeological Sciences
>
> >> Division of AGES,
>
> >> University of Bradford
>
> >> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
> >>
>
> >> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
>
> >> fax 01274 23 5210
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
>
> >> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>
> >> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Günther Karl
> Kunst
>
> >> Sent: 04 June 2012 11:32
>
> >> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
> of
>
> >> object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>
> >> Subject: [Bonetools] cross_bone_?
>
> >>
>
> >> Der Alice and all!
>
> >> Unfortunately, this is not meant as an immediate reponse concerning a
>
> >> bonetool of the month, because the circumstances (stray find), property
>
> >> issues and identity (material) are still too vague. It was found by a
> local
>
> >> collector in the vicinity of a former castle in a (nowadays) remote
> area of
>
> >> northern Lower Austria. It was shown to me by Sabine Felgenhauer from
> the
>
> >> prehistoric department who carries out excavations in the castle area
>
> >> (pottery of High Medieval - 11th-13th c). The oblong object, with a
>
> >> cross-engraving on both sides, feels "warm" haptically and has been
> worked
>
> >> (file, saw, ...) all over its surface, and I think/hope it is an animal
>
> >> tissue, but not quite sure about that. No original surface left, and
> what is
>
> >> the meaning of the "structural lines"
>
> >> (dentine-ivory, antler?)? Excavator put forward ideas about a gaming
>
> >> piece/chessman. I attach several pictures I took under not quite ideal
>
> >> cicrumstances.
>
> >> Any suggestions welcome!
>
> >> all the best
>
> >> Karl
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
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