[Bonetools] Drilled red deer antlers
François Poplin
poplin at mnhn.fr
Tue Jan 17 16:34:22 CET 2012
Je retrouve ces messages sur cet objet en cherchant autre chose.
Les trous sont-ils vraiment "drilled" (c'est-à-dire cylindriques) ? Il
ne me semble pas - mais sans l'objet en main...
Des liens/cordes ont pu user la paroi et les bords des trous : l'usure
est elle répartie tout autour, ou au contraire concentrée en certains
points du pourtour ? N'y aurait-il pas opposition de sens entre l'usure
du trou du milieu et ceux des extrémités ?
L'usure se développe-t-elle de la même façon sur les deux faces, ou bien
non, ou peu, sur la face de sciage ?
Bien à vous.
Le 13/05/2010 14:23, Alice Choyke a écrit :
> Well since I had been wondering if they could be an architectural
> feature related to the roofing or something like that the lack of
> weathering rules that out. On the other hand, the flatness of the
> inner surface (they were split, suggests the rested against - were
> secured against - a flat surface perhaps inside the house. What a
> mystery object. I will keep my eyes open for parallels at least.
>
> Alice
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Noelle Provenzano
> <noprovenzano at interfree.it <mailto:noprovenzano at interfree.it>> wrote:
>
> Dear Alice,
>
> These objects come all from habitat context : two were found in
> the same house-yard (court ?) (but not together) and the others
> inside various houses. But the excavations are not very extended
> at the moment.
>
> Except usual taphonomics actions, surfaces suggest that they were
> buried rather quickly.
>
> I also think that they were common objects very adapted to their
> function because during two centuries (IV and Ve) they have
> exactly the same anatomical origin, the same manufacturing methods
> and the same traces of use. All that in context where antlers are
> very very little exploited. So, that shows us a true choice.
>
> According to what I know, one doesn't know any other specimen
> outside from this site or this period....
>
> .....Until now !
>
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> <mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu>] *De la part de* Alice
> Choyke
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 13 mai 2010 09:15
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> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Drilled red deer antlers
>
> Dear Noelle,
> what kind of contexts were these objects found in: in houses,
> outbuildings pits etc. Does their surface suggest they fell off
> something after site abandonment or were they buried quickly. That
> might give a hint about how they were used. They must be very
> frustating objects to study because they look like they were very
> useful, common and obvious things.Any people out there with Celtic
> or early medieval analogies out there?
>
> Alice
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Noelle Provenzano
> <noprovenzano at interfree.it <mailto:noprovenzano at interfree.it>> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I would really appreciate if anyone could point me to some
> analogies about these objects :
>
> They are made with a central beam longitudinally bipartited
> (splited) and come from Second Iron Age of South of France.
>
> The lower side is just regularized and doesn't show any other
> usewear traces. The superior side is natural. The two laterals
> holes present strong deformations (but irregularly distributed and
> directed) due to the cross of a flexible bond, the central
> perforation doesn't show always so many usewear traces.
>
> If someone has an idea.... Thanks a lot !
>
> Noelle
>
> _______________________________________________________
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> CNRS - Université de Montpellier III
> UMR 5140 - Archéologie des Sociétés Méditerranéennes
> 390 avenue de Pérols
> 34970 - Lattes
> France
>
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> Fax 33 (0) 467 225 515
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