[Bonetools] Drilled red deer antlers

François Poplin poplin at mnhn.fr
Tue Jan 17 16:34:22 CET 2012


Je retrouve ces messages sur cet objet en cherchant autre chose.

Les trous sont-ils vraiment "drilled" (c'est-à-dire cylindriques) ? Il 
ne me semble pas - mais sans l'objet en main...

Des liens/cordes ont pu user la paroi et les bords des trous : l'usure 
est elle répartie tout autour, ou au contraire concentrée en certains 
points du pourtour ? N'y aurait-il pas opposition de sens entre l'usure 
du trou du milieu et ceux des extrémités ?

L'usure se développe-t-elle de la même façon sur les deux faces, ou bien 
non, ou peu, sur la face de sciage ?

Bien à vous.

Le 13/05/2010 14:23, Alice Choyke a écrit :
> Well since I had been wondering if they could be an architectural 
> feature related to the roofing or something like that the lack of 
> weathering rules that out. On the other hand, the flatness of the 
> inner surface (they were split, suggests the rested against - were 
> secured against - a flat surface perhaps inside the house. What a 
> mystery object. I will keep my eyes open for parallels at least.
>
> Alice
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Noelle Provenzano 
> <noprovenzano at interfree.it <mailto:noprovenzano at interfree.it>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Alice,
>
>     These objects come all from habitat context : two were found in
>     the same  house-yard (court ?) (but not together) and the others
>     inside various houses. But the excavations are not very extended
>     at the moment.
>
>     Except usual taphonomics actions, surfaces suggest that they were
>     buried rather quickly.
>
>     I also think that they were common objects very adapted to their
>     function because during two centuries (IV and Ve) they have
>     exactly the same anatomical origin, the same manufacturing methods
>     and the same traces of use. All that in context where antlers are
>     very very little exploited. So, that shows us a true choice.
>
>     According to what I know, one doesn't know any other specimen
>     outside from this site or this period....
>
>     .....Until now  !
>
>     _______________________________________________________
>     Noëlle Provenzano
>     CNRS - Université de Montpellier III
>     UMR 5140 - Archéologie des Sociétés Méditerranéennes
>     390 avenue de Pérols
>     34970 - Lattes
>     France
>
>     Tél. 33 (0) 467 156 139
>     Fax 33 (0) 467 225 515
>     noprovenzano at interfree.it <mailto:noprovenzano at interfree.it>
>
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>     [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>     <mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu>] *De la part de* Alice
>     Choyke
>     *Envoyé :* jeudi 13 mai 2010 09:15
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>     the study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
>     *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Drilled red deer antlers
>
>     Dear Noelle,
>        what kind of contexts were these objects found in: in houses,
>     outbuildings pits etc. Does their surface suggest they fell off
>     something after site abandonment or were they buried quickly. That
>     might give a hint about how they were used. They must be very
>     frustating objects to study because they look like they were very
>     useful, common and obvious things.Any people out there with Celtic
>     or early medieval analogies out there?
>
>     Alice
>
>     On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Noelle Provenzano
>     <noprovenzano at interfree.it <mailto:noprovenzano at interfree.it>> wrote:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     I would really appreciate if anyone could point me to some
>     analogies about these objects :
>
>     They are made with a central beam longitudinally bipartited
>     (splited) and come from Second Iron Age of South of France.
>
>     The lower side is just regularized and doesn't show any other
>     usewear traces. The superior side is natural. The two laterals
>     holes present strong deformations (but irregularly distributed and
>     directed) due to the cross of a flexible bond, the central
>     perforation doesn't show always so many usewear traces.
>
>     If someone has an idea.... Thanks a lot !
>
>     Noelle
>
>     _______________________________________________________
>     Noëlle Provenzano
>     CNRS - Université de Montpellier III
>     UMR 5140 - Archéologie des Sociétés Méditerranéennes
>     390 avenue de Pérols
>     34970 - Lattes
>     France
>
>     Tél. 33 (0) 467 156 139
>     Fax 33 (0) 467 225 515
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