[Bonetools] Re : Fwd: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group seeking signatures
Pam Crabtree
PamCDougC at comcast.net
Tue Jan 10 20:12:11 CET 2012
Dear Colleagues,
I am so glad to see this discussion. I am mostly a conventional
zooarchaeologist, but I have done some work with Doug Campana on the bone
tool assemblages from Dun Ailinne and Godin Tepe. As one of the rare North
Americans who works primarily in Europe, I would love to see some more
integration/ collaboration between the WBRG and the SAA. I always find the
SAA a bit difficult because there is so little European material, especially
for Holocene Europe. We we get a session, it is often scheduled for Sunday
morning. Pam Crabtree
-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine M. Moore
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ofobject and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Re : Fwd: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group
seeking signatures
Dear Colleagues:
I am glad that you have been so attentive to this call! You may wonder
a little that there is so little formal recognition of zooarchaeology
or bone tool studies at the SAA. There are several other working
groups (fiber studies, geoarchaeology) that have been active for some
years and host sessions and social events at the annual SAA
conferences. But, it has been difficult to sustain this for
zooarchaeology and the last organizational attempt was more than 10
years ago. We North American specialists hope for effective
collaboration and support for this effort. It will not duplicate what
happens in the WBRG but will be a link to it. Many of the young North
American scholars working on bone technology are totally unaware of
the WBRG and were dumbfounded when I offered them this resource.
best,
Kate Moore
Quoting Christian Küchelmann <info at knochenarbeit.de>:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> when I read Sarah's message in the ZOOARCH list my first thought was like
> Jean-Marc's: Is this really necessary? Nevertheless I claimed this
> message to be relevant for the BONETOOL-list and I forwarded it.
>
> I have to admit I can follow Christian's and Alice's thoughts and I won't
> mind another working Group working on the same topic. And as has been
> said already, several colleagues working in the US are active members of
> the WBRG for years and vice versa several colleagues from Europe have
> participated in Christian's SAA session in Montreal 2004, which has been
> ackknowledged on the WBRG-website for quite a while by the way (see
> http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=34).
> What I think is absolutely necessary, however, is to keep bonds with the
> SAA working group from the beginning and exchange knowledge, information,
> etc.
>
> I can offer to get in contact with Sarah and Lisa Dugas and offer them to
> put the proposal for the Zooarchaeology and Bone Technology Interest
> Group (ZBTIG) in the News section of the WBRG-Website, if WBRG members
> agree. Further, as soon as the working group has been founded physically
> I can set links to them.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best
>
> Christian
> --
> KNOCHENARBEIT
>
> Hans Christian Küchelmann
> Diplom-Biologe
>
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>
>
> Am 10.01.2012 um 15:50 schrieb Christian Gates:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> If I may share my point of view on this matter, I would like to
>> underline the fact that most members of the WBRG are based in Europe,
>> with meetings held in Europe. Unfortunately, many North American
>> archaeologists sometimes have the tendency to look for collaboration
>> with their North American collegues before looking at the international
>> level, for various reasons (language, large basin of archaeologists in
>> the USA, etc.). Thus, I think a working group among the Society for
>> American Archaeology (SAA, perhaps the largest association of
>> archaeologists in the world) cannot be a bad thing. The more working
>> groups there are, the more worked bone studies will be known. It is not
>> only a question of networking, but also a question of visibility and
>> vitality. A multiplication of working groups would only mean that our
>> field is alive and growing.
>>
>> Eva David mentions the 2004 symposium in Montreal, held during the
>> annual SAA meeting. This is a symposium I organised with my collegue
>> Renee Walker. At that time I was a postdoc fellow in the United States
>> doing use wear analysis on bone tools. This was a new field to me (I
>> have been trained as a ceramic specialist), and I had never met any
>> other worked bone specialist before. It is only after this meeting that
>> I joined the ICAZ and the WBRG. I'm saying this because I think it might
>> happen again (with other young North American researchers especially).
>> For example, If a worked bone working group in North America could do
>> the same great work that is being done in Europe with the ICAZ-WBRG, I
>> think that could only be a good thing. And I do not see these a
>> "competing" working groups, but as different working groups on different
>> continents working together, not against each other.
>>
>> Accordingly, I hope that a new worked bone working group will appear
>> among the various SAA working groups. This will show to North American
>> students and professors that it is an active field of research, and a
>> further step in promoting the inclusion of work bone studies in the
>> university curricula and in promoting the training of MA and PhD
>> students in this field of research. Perhaps this could be a first step
>> in having as many worked bone specialists in North America as there are
>> in Europe (please, let me dream!!).
>>
>> I may be wrong, but this is how I see it. Sorry for this long message,
>> and do not hesitate to share your comments on it.
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>>
>>
>> Christian Gates St-Pierre
>>
>> Invited researcher
>> Département d'anthropologie
>> Université de Montréal
>>
>> Lecturer and posdoctoral research fellow
>> Département d'histoire
>> Université Laval
>>
>>
>>
>> De : Eva David <eva.david at mae.u-paris10.fr>
>> À : "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
>> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> Envoyé le : Mardi 10 Janvier 2012 4h56
>> Objet : Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group
>> seeking signatures
>>
>> Short Note :
>> WBRG Members have already participated to SAA (Montréal, 2004) for a
>> special dedicated session on Bone technology, but of course, they 're
>> not there representative of WBRG's then :
>> Ch. Gates St.-Pierre & R. Walker (Eds.), 2007, Bones as Tools; Current
>> methods and interpretations in worked bone studies. Oxford (BAR
>> International Series; 1622).
>> Best, éva
>>
>>
>> Le 9 janv. 2012 à 19:50, Alice Choyke a écrit :
>>
>>> Dear Jean-Marc,
>>> I agree with you about possible duplication but it is also
>>> precisely the reason that WBRG must be truly international and not
>>> expect the world to come to us! I can perfectly understand that
>>> colleagues in the US, Asia and the Pacific feel frustrated that all our
>>> meetings have been uniformly in Europe. We should have pressed for more
>>> international venues much earlier than Salzburg but, frankly, it never
>>> occurred to me.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alice
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Jean-Marc Petillon
>>> <petillon at univ-tlse2.fr> wrote:
>>> It's good news to see that interest for bone technology is on the rise
>>> in the SAA as well, but what will be the purpose of this group except
>>> duplicating what the WBRG is already doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 06/01/12 11:56, Christian Küchelmann a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:
>>>
>>> Von: Sarah Whitcher Kansa <skansa at ALEXANDRIAARCHIVE.ORG>
>>> Datum: 5. Januar 2012 20:24:51 MEZ
>>> An: ZOOARCH at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>> Betreff: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group seeking signatures
>>> Antwort an: Sarah Whitcher Kansa <skansa at ALEXANDRIAARCHIVE.ORG>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> A zooarchaeologist colleague, Lisa Dugas, is putting together a
>>> proposal for a new Zooarchaeology and Bone Technology Interest Group
>>> (ZBTIG) for the Society for American Archaeology. She is soliciting
>>> signatures from colleagues who are SAA members and who would be
>>> interested in participating in this working group. It will be a free
>>> group that will meet once a year at the SAA meeting to exchange
>>> information about zooarchaeology and bone technology research and
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> Lisa has provided a simple form to sign that says you are an SAA
>>> member and plan to participate in the group. I've put the form online
>>> at the link below (Word doc) If you're at all interested, please sign
>>> it and send it to Lisa.
>>> http://alexandriaarchive.org/bonecommons/items/show/1819
>>>
>>> (Zooarchaeology and Bone Technology Interest Group single signature
>>> form.doc)
>>>
>>> If you'd like more information about the proposed group, please email
>>> Lisa: l.dugas at gaiconsultants.com
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>> -- Sarah Whitcher Kansa Executive Director,
>>>
>>> AAI Editor, Open Context www.alexandriaarchive.org www.opencontext.org
>>>
>>> Tel: 1-415-425-7381 Fax: 1-866-505-8626
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>> Dr. Éva DAVID
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>>
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>>
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