[Bonetools] Re : Re : protohistoric object

[MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin]

Hello Marloes, sorry for the delay, I traveled.
Good remark... Phalanges internal side are flat but not so flat. I agree with 
you : the (possible) worked surface must be straight and a pottery generaly 
isn't.

Best
Benjamin

 Marquebielle Benjamin
PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608
5, rue du pont Guilheméry
31000 Toulouse
tel : 06 71 33 61 52
e-mail : benjamin.marquebielle at yahoo.fr





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De : Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <marloesrijkelijkhuizen at hotmail.com>
À : bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
Envoyé le : Ven 1 juillet 2011, 21h 02min 49s
Objet : Re: [Bonetools] Re :  protohistoric object

 
Hi Benjamin
 
I couldn't see if it was flattened (before use). 
 
If used, it should be used for/on something with a flat surface, the surface is 
completely flat. (compare the medieval skates, these were used on ice and have a 
flat surface, but were sometimes flattened before use). If used for pottery the 
surface wouldn't be straight.
 
Best, Marloes

 


________________________________
 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:35:47 +0100
From: benjamin.marquebielle at yahoo.fr
To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
Subject: [Bonetools] Re : protohistoric object

 
No, it isn't.
I send photo of another object where you can see more precisely the traces. Use 
wear area is the result of the use/exploitation of the flatest face of the 
phalanx, maybe with a kind of abrasion technique... The mophologic modification 
of the bone could be various but never very important.

Non, il ne s'agit pas de sciage. 
Je joins une photo d'un autre objet sur laquelle on voit plus précisément les 
stigmates. La zone d'usure est le résultat de l'utilisation ou de l'exploitation 
de la face la plus plate de la phalange, peut être en utilisant une technique 
d'abrasion... Ce degré d'usure peut varier mais il n'est jamais très important.

 Marquebielle Benjamin
PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608
5, rue du pont Guilheméry
31000 Toulouse
tel : 06 71 33 61 52
e-mail : benjamin.marquebielle at yahoo.fr





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 De : François Poplin <poplin at mnhn.fr>
À : bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
Envoyé le : Ven 1 juillet 2011, 12h 20min 16s
Objet : Re: [Bonetools] protohistoric object

Est-il sûr qu'il ne s'agit pas d'un sciage ?

Would not be sawing traces ?

Le 01/07/2011 11:00, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin a écrit : 
Hello !
>Does anybody have an idea about the type or function of this object ? It's an 
>young pig phalanx, with use wear traces on the internal face, covered by oblique 
>striations. It comes from large protohistoric site (possible marketplace) of 
>Toulouse, in the south of France (II-I° century BC). About 20 objects was found, 
>a majority made of pig phalanxes (young or not) and only two made of bovid 
>pahlanxes. Use wear is always located on the same face, with different use 
>degree and some objetcs are perforated on the proximal face. We thought about a 
>kind of smoother (in relation with potery ? metal ?) but objects are realy small 
>and found in various contexts (more often in wells full of rubbish).
>Thanks a lot and best regards
>
> Marquebielle Benjamin
>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608
>5, rue du pont Guilheméry
>31000 Toulouse
>tel : 06 71 33 61 52
>e-mail : benjamin.marquebielle at yahoo.fr
>
>
>
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d'Anthropozoologie  Muséum national d'Histoire naturelle CP 56 Ancien 
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