[Bonetools] Fwd: early neolithic bone tools

[Alice Choyke]

Dear Selena,
    I am inclined to agree and that makes the situation even more
interesting - in a way this may point us  a little bit better to where the
early neolithic settlers moving into the Hungarian Plain might have been
coming from. And, of course, from a real life point of view this may also
suggest which Starcevo groups derive from local Mesolithic populations that
in the Iron Gates at least used plenty of antler as well.  Keep collecting
Selena.

Alice

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Selena Vitezovic
<selenavitezovic at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thank you very much indeed, both publications and comments are helpful.
> About antlers - strange enough, the collection from Starčevo-Grad site in
> the National Museum in Belgrade has just few antlers, while the collection
> from National Museum in Pančevo has dozens of very beautiful pieces. I am
> inclined to think that the variations in number of antlers are regional
> differencies, not chronological ones.
> thanx again, best,
> Selena
>
>
> On 9 May 2010 07:02, Haskel Greenfield <Greenf at cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
>
>>  The distribution of antlers is really variable from region to region.
>> Yes, more are found in the Iron Gates than elsewhere, but there are others
>> in the Jagodina area. We had very few at Blagotin or Foeni. Hope this helps.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Haskel Greenfield
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Selena Vitezovic
>> *Sent:* February-02-10 1:52 PM
>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] early neolithic bone tools
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, mr Greenfield.
>>
>> Alice, here are some additional photos of the antler. I think that the
>> rose was on the broken part, I have also two other bases of shed antlers,
>> with similarly cut tines, but without this large portion of beam, and with
>> working surface on the antler base.
>> Starčevo is also poor with antlers in general - with the exception of
>> sites from Iron gates - but then I found almost 20 antler objects from
>> Starčevo in Pančevo museum, all very carefully worked.
>>
>> best, s.
>>
>> On 2 February 2010 20:14, Alice Choyke <h13017cho at iif.hu> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Selena,
>>      The groove on the cattle first phalange appears made with twine but I
>> have never seen anything like it on Koros sites in Hungary or anywhere else
>> for that matter. It is a bit hard to judge the first object. am I right in
>> thinking that one end is a the rose (without the pearling) of a shed antler
>> and then the eye and beze tines with a hole cut perpendicularly thru the
>> beam? What does the cross-section of this object look like. The Koros
>> culture of Hungary is strikingly poor in antler objects of any kind.
>>
>> Best,
>> Alice
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Selena Vitezovic <
>> selenavitezovic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello everyone,
>>
>> Now I have few questions. These objects are from Starčevo culture (Early/
>> middle Neolithic)  from Starčevo, eponymous site, in Belgrade vicinity (the
>> phalanx and the antler tool) and from Donja Branjevina in northerns Serbia
>> (pointed tool).
>> Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
>>
>> thanx very much,
>>
>> regards, Selena
>>
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