[Bonetools] antler object from Iron Gates
François Poplin
poplin at mnhn.fr
Sat May 1 11:21:09 CEST 2010
Dear colleague,
as "first aid", I would pray 1°) for seeing the item itself, which is
not possible, and 2) and much more, for a C14 dating.
Your's
Selena Vitezovic a écrit :
> Thanx again to everybody for comments.
> Isabelle, yes, it may be Chalcolithic, there are some Salcuta finds in
> Iron Gates (one grave was found on Lepenski Vir), although in the
> vicinity of Knjepište site there are none, and Bronze Age (Žuto Brdo
> culture) in this case is more probable. The small circle near
> perforation could be both accidental and ornamental, and looks like
> Bronze age decoration.
> Of course, it could be Late Neolithic as well - but there is no Late
> Neolithic in Iron Gates II region.
> So, most probably, this is a stray Bronze Age find.
> Sandra, in Iron Gates I know only about the famous piece from Cuina
> Turcului, from Serbian side there is no mention of them in
> publications, and since I haven't seen personally the material from
> Upper Gorge area, I can't tell you definitely if there are any or not.
> best, s.
>
>
> 2010/4/30 Sandra Olsen <olsens at carnegiemnh.org
> <mailto:olsens at carnegiemnh.org>>
>
> Dear Selena:
> It is a bit early for a cheek piece, probably, but it could be an
> arrowshaft straightener/flaker. The wear around the perforation
> suggests that it could have been used to straighten shafts,
> although not over a very long period of time.
> Do you have any decorated horse phalanges? I am very interested
> in finding out if there are others from Iron Gate and what their
> ages are.
> Cheers,
>
> Sandi
> Sandra L. Olsen, Ph.D.
> Head of the Section of Anthropology
> Carnegie Museum of Natural History
> O'Neil Research Center
> 5800 Baum Blvd.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15206
>
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>
>
>
>
> On 4/28/10 7:08 PM, "Selena Vitezovic" <selenavitezovic at gmail.com
> <mailto:selenavitezovic at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have - again - a question concerning early and middle
> Neolithic bone objects. This antler piece comes from early
> Neolithic site Knjepište in Iron Gates (near the Iron Gates II
> hydropowerplant, i. e. downstream of Lepenski Vir), and should
> be of Early Neolithic origin. However, I have never seen
> anything quite like this before - and it does not seem
> Neolithic to me. All these Iron Gates sites also have traces
> of Roman occupation, and several sites in Iron Gates II region
> have Bronze Age levels as well (Žuto Brdo culture), and I
> think this piece is younger than Early Neolithic (data on
> stratigraphy is scarce).
> I would really appreciate if anyone could point me to some
> analogies.
> thanx, Selena
>
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