[Bonetools] antler object from Iron Gates

[Alice Choyke]

But absolutely not early Neolithic - even in the Iron Gates where there is
early heavy use of  antler as opposed to someplace like the Carpathian Basin
or the Pannonian Plain.

Alice

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Noelle Provenzano <
noprovenzano at interfree.it> wrote:

>  Hi everyone,
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> For me this object doesn’t smell horses cheek-pieces, nor even element of
> horse harness. They are generally more curved, smaller section and with
> different perforations.
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> I think that one should not be focused on the perforation but rather on the
> two extremities, especially the smothed bevel. I think that the perforation
> is not the active part of the object.
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> For what I can see, the cut-marks seems made with flint and not with a
> metal tool (or a metal tool very very very smothed…).
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> So, even if I do not know this type of object, I don’t see problem to find
> it in Neolithic layer, also Late Neolithic or Chalcolithic.
>
> Noëlle
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> *De :* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *De la part de* Alice Choyke
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 30 avril 2010 14:32
> *À :* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] antler object from Iron Gates
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> Dear Pam (and Selena of course) - this was my first reaction but if it is a
> bridle cheek piece it is a VERY primitive one. I actually really doubt that
> this piece was used this way.On the other hand the the form of the hafting
> hole is very 'bronze-agey'. I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to
> take a close look at those cut marks under high magnifications to see what
> their profile looks like - were they cut with a flint or a metal blade? That
> will tell you whether you have (as I suspect) a stray Middle Bronze Age tool
> of some sort. If Noelle is reading this I wonder how this object compares to
> her MBA Terremare materials which has every kind of antler tool in it you
> can imagine.
>
> Alice
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> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM, <PajX at aol.com> wrote:
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> Dear Selena
>
> This item looks very much like others which have been identified as bridle
> cheek pieces (there's another name, but I'm not awake enough to remember it
> at the moment - ps...). Quite an exciting find re aspects of horse
> domestication/riding... The grooved wear line seems consistent with this.
>
> Such pieces have also be identified as other tools. You might find this
> site of interest.
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> http://www.donsmaps.com/tools.html
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> I'd love to hear more about the find context.
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> best
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> Pam Cross
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> PhD researcher, AGES
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> University of Bradford
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