magyar ekezetek

[Eszter Vida]

Dear Maria:

In absence of a system that can store and display the diacritics
of Hungarian the sort of 'unofficial' best practice would be as
follows:

1., the closest diacritical mark you can get, which in this case
-- u -- (u with 'double acute') is the '2 points' you refer to (the
proper term for this is 'diaeresis') -- ü --, and

2., if you're unable to reproduce this character in your system,
then you could use u with breve, u with caron, with tilde, or no
diacritics at all.

The mappings of u (u with double acute) in hexa format:

0171 (Unicode); FB (8859-2); 75CC8B (UTF-8)

To comment this, however, I wonder how come you, the
Court of Justice of the EU, are not armed with a system
that can handle at least the Roman script, Latin-1 and Latin-2,
a minimal requirement?! With the legions of translators and
interpreters employed by the EU administration and the
phenomenal money spent on them to turn out impeccable
publications and documents in the respective languages of
member states, some mini money oughta be devoted to
purchase software that  can handle the characters at issue --
it's not an impudent demand of the new member states. Most
contemporary systems can routinely cope with the Unicode
and UTF-8, so it's high time the computers of the Court of
Justice were upgraded asap.

Best wishes,
Mr Zsolt Banhegyi
head of Dept of Automation
Library of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences


----- Original Message -----
From: "Drotos Laszlo" <mekdl at iif.hu>
To: <KATALIST at LISTSERV.IIF.HU>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:17 AM
Subject: [KATALIST] Fwd: [Info] Question


 > Továbbítom egy uniós könyvtáros levelét, amiben arról érdeklõdik,
 > hogy hogyan szokás átírni a magyar hosszú "ü"-t (és gondolom a
 > hosszú "ö" betûket is), ha a számítógépes rendszer nem támogatja.
 > (Bár a levelében sikerült egy korrekt "û"-t írnia.)
 >
 > Ha valaki ismeri a külföldi gyakorlatot, akkor válaszoljon neki a
 > <Maria_Jesus.Hardt-Martin at curia.eu.int> címen.
 >
 > Drótos László
 > MEK-könyvtáros
 >
 >
 > >From: "Maria Jesus Hardt-Martin" <Maria_Jesus.Hardt-Martin at curia.eu.int>
 > >To: <info at mek.oszk.hu>
 > >Subject: [Info] Question
 > >Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:51:58 +0200
 > >
 > >Dear sirs,
 > >
 > >I am a librarian at the Court of Justice of the European Communities in
 > >Luxembourg.
 > >
 > >Since some years we are confronted to the cataloguing of publications
 > >in Hungarian. I have the impression we have always made a mistake
 > >and I would kindly ask you if you can clarify a doubt we have.
 > >When you have the symbol that goes for exemple in the "u" of the word
 > >nyelvu, we have always replaced by 2 points. Now we have heard that
 > >is incorrect and we should put instead another symbol like in û or ~.
 > >Could you please tell me which is the procedure to replace this symbol
 > >when the informatic program can't support the other??
 > >
 > >I thank you very much in advance,
 > >
 > >Maria-Jesus Hardt-Martin
 > >Court of Justice of the EC
 > >Library
 > >Luxembourg
 > >
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 > >Info at mek.oszk.hu