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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Thank you very much, Petar! I have downloaded the paper and will read it with great interest right away.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bonetools <bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Petar Zidarov<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 19, 2021 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christian Gates St-Pierre <christian.gates-st-pierre@umontreal.ca>; Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn. <bonetools@listserv.niif.hu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bonetools] Info and thoughts on craft learning<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">You may find some useful illustration of case studies of what could arguably
<span style="color:black">be </span>described as cases of apprenticeship in carving prehistoric bone figurines from Bulgaria and Romania dating towards the third quarter of the 5th mill BC. They are published in a paper I co-authored in 2014 with Aline Averbouh
in the excellent volume of the meeting in Targoviste (Romania) edited by <span style="color:#333333">Monica Mărgărit, Gaëlle Le Dosseur & Aline Averbouh. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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hand have left guidelines for his apprentice to carve the ornaments in a case of relatively standardized "mass production". Here is a link you could consult: </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.academia.edu/9817269/The_production_of_bone_figurines_in_the_Balkan_Chalcolithic_and_the_use_of_debitage_by_extraction_Produc%C8%9Bia_figurinelor_din_os_%C3%AEn_calcoliticul_balcanic_%C8%99i_utilizarea_debitajului_prin_extrac%C8%9Bie" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/9817269/The_production_of_bone_figurines_in_the_Balkan_Chalcolithic_and_the_use_of_debitage_by_extraction_Produc%C8%9Bia_figurinelor_din_os_%C3%AEn_calcoliticul_balcanic_%C8%99i_utilizarea_debitajului_prin_extrac%C8%9Bie</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 11:51:30 PM GMT+3, Liye Xie <<a href="mailto:liye.xie@utoronto.ca">liye.xie@utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">Thank you very much, Christian! I look forward to reading your paper later today.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">Thank you,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> Bonetools <<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christian Gates St-Pierre<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 16, 2021 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bonetools] Info and thoughts on craft learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">That's a very interesting question, especially the binary learning system you describe. I don't know of any other instance of such a system,
unfortunately. However, I have addressed the issue of technological learning, and more especially the social sharing or technological knowledge regarding bone tool production in a publication of mine, which I place in attachment to this message (sorry for
the self-promotion). Hope this helps.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 01:23:44 p.m. GMT-4, Liye Xie <<a href="mailto:liye.xie@utoronto.ca" target="_blank">liye.xie@utoronto.ca</a>>
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I am seeking help from this incredibly resourceful and knowledgeable group.
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I am working on a paper on the learning patterns of bone shovel production in the Neolithic Hemudu culture in eastern
China. It appears to me that the Hemudu people had a binary system for maintaining their bone shovel tradition, meaning they conformed to the social norms in terms of object style and raw material preference but relied on self-learning to produce the tools.
This combination of social learning and self-learning for an object that was likely tied to a group identity seems odd to me. Because, honestly, I naively expected to find evidence for communities of practice or at least some sort of formal training to maintain
an almost iconic object of society. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I have been trying to find comparable studies on cultural transmission and ways of maintaining technological tradition.
But, unfortunately, the case studies I have seen so far are primarily on pottery and lithic productions. In addition, I couldn’t find any mention of a binary learning system as such. Therefore, I wondered if you could point me to relevant publications on bone
tools or a binary learning system for any crafts. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I understand everyone is very busy. I would appreciate any information or thoughts you could share.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Thank you.
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<p class="ydp9aa13a7yiv5720878436ydpe133867cyiv6667438260msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">-Liye</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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