<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpf31e4c2dyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi, funnily I only <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">see</span></span> the comments but not the original post with the photos from Romania.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I am curious and I wonder what may be the reason.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Best wishes to all,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Petar</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpf31e4c2dsignature"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div>-- </div><div dir="ltr"> <div class="ydp12af3d66pasted-link"><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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On Friday, May 7, 2021, 08:18:05 AM GMT+3, Christoforos Arampatzis <christ.arabatzis@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Accoding to the program of the WBRG meeting in 2016, Petar Zidarov<br clear="none">presented some similar items from the Eastern Balkans.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have also seen some more elaborated versions of these items in<br clear="none">Northern Greece.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">2021-05-06 22:04 GMT-07:00, Haskel Greenfield <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Haskel.Greenfield@umanitoba.ca" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Haskel.Greenfield@umanitoba.ca</a>>:<br clear="none">> Hi. I have also seen them in Neolithic sites from the central Balkans.<br clear="none">> All the best<br clear="none">> Haskel<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Haskel J. Greenfield, Distinguished Professor<br clear="none">> University of Manitoba<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none">> From: Bonetools <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>> On Behalf Of<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:Grzegorz.Osipowicz@umk.pl" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Grzegorz.Osipowicz@umk.pl</a><br clear="none">> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:32 AM<br clear="none">> To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br clear="none">> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Help identifying tool<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> ********************************************************<br clear="none">> Caution: This message was sent from outside the University of Manitoba.<br clear="none">> ********************************************************<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hi all,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I don’t think we can talk in this case about possible "function" or call<br clear="none">> this artefact from the formal point of view unequivocally somehow because in<br clear="none">> all the mentioned cases (bâton percé, mattock, axe, adze et<br clear="none">> cetera) such classification is determined by the form of a tool, i. e.<br clear="none">> presence and location of the working edge. If the form is preserved we can<br clear="none">> sometimes use it to define the probable chronology of artefact like in the<br clear="none">> case of bâton percé (Late Palaeolithic or Mesolithic).<br clear="none">> However, I don’t think this is an artefact of this type because as far as I<br clear="none">> know at least in Mesolithic they were not used in Romania (as I suppose this<br clear="none">> is a place it comes from). For me, it can be a part of any type of adze/axe<br clear="none">> and can be generally dated from Mesolithic to even Iron Age. The closer<br clear="none">> dating can be sometimes suggested looking at the way the perforation was<br clear="none">> made. In this case, it looks drilled with the use of a wooden drill and<br clear="none">> sand, so probably (at least in my<br clear="none">> opinion) we deal here with Mesolithic or Neolithic artefact.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Best regards<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Grzegorz<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Cytowanie Imola Kelemen <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:imonox@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">imonox@yahoo.com</a>>:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>> Dear everyone,A friend of mine asked for help, they're trying to ID<br clear="none">>> some old inventory pieces in their museum.<br clear="none">>> Have you seen anything like the tool in the pictures attached? I can<br clear="none">>> see it is made of antler, but could you help in identifying its<br clear="none">>> function and/or the time period most probably used in?I hope it's<br clear="none">>> familiar to some of you!<br clear="none">>> Thank you in advance for any information!All the best to<br clear="none">>> everyone,Imola dr. Imola Kelemen Muzeul Secuiesc al Ciucului<br clear="none">>> 530132 Miercurea Ciuc, RO<br clear="none">>> Piata Cetatii Nr. 2.<br clear="none">>> Tel./Fax. +40 266 311 727<br clear="none">>> www.csikimuzeum.ro<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> --<br clear="none">> Dr hab. Grzegorz Osipowicz, prof. UMK<br clear="none">> Instytut Archeologii<br clear="none">> Uniwersytet Mikołaja Kopernika<br clear="none">> ul Szosa Bydgoska 44/48<br clear="none">> 87-100 Toruń<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Dr hab. 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