<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Dear Martha,</div><div>I see again and much better the rivet, and agree with you for iron. And I did not realize that it was so close to the end : it's possible that a moving piece was there.</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>De: </b>"marta blasco martin" <marta.blasco.martin@gmail.com><br><b>À: </b>"Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <bonetools@listserv.niif.hu><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Jeudi 16 Novembre 2017 14:06:05<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [Bonetools] Bonetools Digest, Vol 140, Issue 4<br></div><br><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thank all
of you for your suggestions. At first, I thought that it could be a flute too,
but the lack of holes and the rivet made me doubt about that. I am sure that the
rivet is from iron. I send you some detailed photos.Thank again for your time
and for the recommend article, I’m waiting for it with interest.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Marta</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><span></span></span></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-16 12:00 GMT+01:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bonetools-request@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">bonetools-request@listserv.niif.hu</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Bonetools mailing list submissions to<br>
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From: Fran?ois POPLIN <<a href="mailto:francois.poplin@mnhn.fr" target="_blank">francois.poplin@mnhn.fr</a>><br>
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May I hav an image from the other en of the rivet ? The question is : has it been beaten (by some hammer) ? If yes, one may suppose<br>
that the thing inside was wood, something strong enough so that the bone won't be crushed.<br>
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Dear Marta,<br>
I am not sure of the function but vulture ulna screams flute (or part of a pipe) to me despite the lack of holes...<br>
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Alice<br>
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On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Marta Blasco Mart?n < [ mailto:<a href="mailto:marta.blasco.martin@gmail.com" target="_blank">marta.blasco.martin@gmail.com</a> | <a href="mailto:marta.blasco.martin@gmail.com" target="_blank">marta.blasco.martin@gmail.com</a> ] > wrote:<br>
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Dear colleagues ,<br>
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I am studying worked bone objects from La Se?a, an Iberian site (Valencia, Spain) (6 th century ? 2 nd century BC). I am not sure about the function of one artefact. It has been made from an ulna of a vulture. It is cut in both end parts and it is polished. In one of the end part has a little iron ribet located between two holes.<br>
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In the Iberian record I only know two artefacts like this. Does anyone have any suggestions about its use or know any parallels?<br>
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I send you some images.<br>
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Thank you very much<br>
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Marta Blasco Mart?n<br>
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Becaria Predoctoral Subprograma "Atracci? de Talent" VLC ? CAMPUS<br>
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Universitat de Val?ncia . Dep. Prehist?ria i Arqueologia i H? Antiga.<br>
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