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Le 19/10/2016 à 11:05, Marloes a écrit :<br>
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<p>Dear Maria,</p>
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<p>This is a nice assemblage to reconstruct the production of
bone objects. It is not uncommon to split metapodials
lengthwise to obtain (four) longitudinal rods. Usually this is
done from the proximal end, see attachment. This photograph is
a waste fragment from the 10th century, The Netherlands, but
this is quite the same for medieval and post-medieval
contexts. This kind of waste fragments are therefore difficult
to date. The finished objects could be a range of longitudinal
objects, depended on the period of time, such as needles, ear
cleaners, writing utensils, etc.</p>
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namens <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trzaska@lineone.net">trzaska@lineone.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:trzaska@lineone.net"><trzaska@lineone.net></a><br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 18 oktober 2016 17:02<br>
<b>Aan:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Bonetools] Worked cattle
metapodials in urban context from Lisbon: request for
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<div class="PlainText">Dear Maria,<br>
<br>
Apologies that it has taken me so long to reply to this
email. It is a difficult assemblage to date
<br>
precisely but one of the clues may lie in what is
missing, rather than what is present. What does
<br>
the waste tell us about the finished products ? Can they
be identified in any way ? I have tried to
<br>
do that in the past, in the attached contributions. The
Lundenwic article has much earlier material
<br>
but might be interesting for the methodology.<br>
<br>
I enclose a couple of my own texts on waste material of
this type plus a contribution by Benoit
<br>
Clavel for the Compiegne volume, which dealt with
15-16th century material. Ingrid Ulbricht dealt
<br>
with medieval worked bone in her 1984 Schleswig volume,
also very useful. I hope that this helps a
<br>
little,<br>
<br>
Ian Riddler<br>
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----Original Message----<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mvalente.ualg@gmail.com">mvalente.ualg@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: 11/10/2016 15:45<br>
To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research
group for the study of<br>
object and waste of bone,<br>
antler. ivory and
horn."<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu"><bonetools@listserv.niif.hu></a><br>
Subj: Re: [Bonetools] Worked cattle metapodials in urban
context from Lisbon: request for
<br>
references and parallel cases<br>
<br>
Hello Alice — That is the problem: the chronology is
more shadowy than I<br>
anticipated (long timeframe, somewhere between the 15th
to 20th century; my<br>
preliminary info was that it was 15-16th century). Marta
Moreno García does<br>
have some bone tool workshop with metapodials from the
19th century, but<br>
they don't show the trochlea cuts (although the shaft
fragments, considered<br>
as debris, is indeed similar). I suppose that's why she
suggested the list<br>
contact.<br>
<br>
Thanks and my best as well,<br>
<br>
-- MJ<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Alice Choyke
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:choyke@gmail.com"><choyke@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Thank you for sending these images to the list - I
have NEVER seen<br>
> trochlea cut like this. Have you compare this
technical style to other<br>
> contemporary Christian bone tool workshops in
Spain?<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Alice<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:40 PM, mjvualg
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mvalente.ualg@gmail.com"><mvalente.ualg@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Dear colleagues,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> This is my first post to the BoneTool list*,
since my regular research<br>
>> doesn't lead me often to worked bone. However,
I'm now analyzing a faunal<br>
>> assemblage from the old moorish parish of
Lisbon (Portugal) in which one of<br>
>> the contexts includes some interesting worked
bone materials. I'm attaching<br>
>> some photos for you see and, eventually, if
possible, help me find some<br>
>> parallel works and/or materials.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> (*thank you Marta Moreno-García for the
suggestion and Alice Choyke for<br>
>> the nice welcome)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Here some data on the archaeological context in
question:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Chronology. Although located in a site that has
context units dating from<br>
>> the 14th to the 20th century, my colleague who
did the field work just<br>
>> confirmed to me that he's not sure on the
chronology of this specific unit:<br>
>> it could be sometime from the 15th to 20th
century (alas!).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Materials. The unit itself was relatively
homogeneous and the worked bone<br>
>> collection (see photo 1 for part of it)
included mostly:<br>
>><br>
>> (1) Cattle metapodial distal ends, many cut on
the distal end of the<br>
>> diaphysis (perpendicular to the axis of the
bone) (photo 2).<br>
>><br>
>> (2) Many metapodials have the edges (lateral
and medial) of the trochleas<br>
>> cut (parallel to the axis of the bone) (photos
3 & 4).<br>
>><br>
>> (3) The context also yielded several elongated
bone blocs (multifaceted<br>
>> shaft fragments, photo 5), probably to produce
tools like needles (one was<br>
>> recovered; I don't have a picture of it at the
moment).<br>
>><br>
>> (4) In all I have a collection of 90+
metapodials plus 60+ multifaceted<br>
>> shaft fragments. The first ones are in
different stages of process (or can<br>
>> be divided in different “subtype” classes; see
preliminary sketch included<br>
>> in Draft Scheme image).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I’d be very grateful for any help that goes on
the lines of:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 1) Similar objects and their function. That
might be very helpful to<br>
>> limit the chronological frame and their usage.
I’m mostly wondering about<br>
>> usage of the trochleas lateral and medial cut
extremities like shown in<br>
>> photos 3 & 4.<br>
>><br>
>> 2) Recommendations for their full study, i.e.
methodology references on<br>
>> how to study this kind of materials, other than
typological and basic<br>
>> descriptive analyses.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> My best regards to all,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -- MJ<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> *Maria João Valente*<br>
>><br>
>> Professora Auxiliar<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Universidade do Algarve<br>
>><br>
>> Faculdade de Ciências Humanas e Sociais<br>
>><br>
>> Campus de Gambelas<br>
>><br>
>> 8000-117 Faro – Portugal<br>
>><br>
>> Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mvalente@ualg.pt">mvalente@ualg.pt</a><br>
>><br>
>> Telefone: +351 289 800 900 (ext. 7625)<br>
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