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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi Selena,<BR> <BR>I forgot to mention that this spoon comes from Belgium.<BR> <BR>Best wishes, Marloes<br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:36:00 +0100<br>From: selenavitezovic@gmail.com<br>To: bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<br>Subject: Re: [Bonetools] neolithic spoon<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;">Dear Marloes, <br><br>These are quite common for the Turkish and South-east Europe Neoltithic, especially Early/Middle, although in Bulgaria you may find them throughout Chalcolithic as well (on central Balkans they are different from Later Neolithic onwards). They vary very much in dimensions and in ratio handle:spoon part; as they are in most cases from Bos metapodials, they can be quite large, as Christian says (there is an enourmous one on permanent exhibition in Istanbul's Archaeological museum), but some of them can even be quite small (I found recently on an Early Neolithic site in Bulgaria one really, really tiny example). <br>Here are some references attached for SE Europe (the ones I have in pdf, but there are many more), but you may also try to find paper by John Nandris in Bulletin of the Institute of Archaeology, London, vol. 10/1972: Bos primigenius and the bone spoon, and Corneliu Beldiman's PhD thesis for examples from Criş culture. Mellaart published few nice pieces from Çatal Hüyük and Hacılar in Anatolian studies (vols. 11/1961, 14/1964). <br></div><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;">Also, if you have Fiches typologiques, volume VI, check it out. <br></div><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;">I also had a poster on spoons from Starčevo in Salzburg, if you remember it. <br></div><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;">If you need any more references, let me know, I have most of the things here cited in paper. <br><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;">I would also like to know where does your piece come from? <br></div><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;"><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif;">best regards, Selena <br></div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 15 February 2015 at 23:50, Consuelo Mata Parreño <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:consuelo.mata@icloud.com" target="_blank">consuelo.mata@icloud.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir="auto"><div>And there are too bones spoons in the Spanish Neolithic. Specially in Cova de L' Or and Cova de les Cendres. The first are in the Museo de Prehistoria de Valencia and the second at MARQ (Alicante).</div><div><br></div><div>Consuelo Mata<br><br><div>Antes de imprimir este e-mail piense bien si es</div><div>necesario hacerlo. El medioambiente es cosa de todos.</div><div><br></div><div>Abans d'imprimir aquest correu pense si és necessari.</div><div>El medi és cosa de tots.</div><div><br></div><div>********************************</div><div>Consuelo Mata</div><div>Dpt. Prehistòria i Arqueologia</div><div>Universitat de València. Estudi General</div><div>Av. Blasco Ibáñez, 28</div><div>46010 València</div><div><br></div><div>Telf. 963864070</div><div><br></div><div>Visit the wonderful world of Iberian Flora. A complete</div><div>database of plants used by ancient Iberian people.</div><div><a href="http://www.uv.es/floraiberica" target="_blank">http://www.uv.es/floraiberica</a></div><div>And enjoy with <a href="http://www.uv.es/kelin" target="_blank">www.uv.es/kelin</a></div><div>********************************</div><div><br></div>Enviado desde mi iPad</div><div><br>El 15/2/2015, a las 22:21, Christian Küchelmann <<a href="mailto:info@knochenarbeit.de" target="_blank">info@knochenarbeit.de</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote><div>Dear Marloes,<div><br></div><div>there are many of these spoons in neolithic Turkish sites. We had about two dozens of them in the last years campaign at Cukurici Höyük and I have seen also recently excavated examples from Barcin Höyük. However, I do not know any published examples at present although I am sure there must be some. The complete spoons were rather long, more than 20 cm sometimes. Where is that find from?</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Christian<br><div>
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<br><div><div>Am 15.02.2015 um 20:09 schrieb Marloes:</div><br><blockquote><span style="font:/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; border-collapse: separate;"><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt;"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<span> </span><br> <br>Does someone has parallells or references for neolithic bone spoons like these (<span style="line-height: 17px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">4361±33 BP)</span><br><span style="line-height: 17px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></span> <br><span style="line-height: 17px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Thanks in advance!</span><br><span style="line-height: 17px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></span> <br><span style="line-height: 17px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Marloes</span> <br></div><span><DSC05627 b kl.jpg></span>_______________________________________________<br>Bonetools mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br><a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Bonetools mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a></span><br><span><a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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