<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Sonia! <br>Do you have a side view to share of this same object? I am wondering what these features (the Haversian canals?) look like in profile at this scale.<br>Also, what species and element are we looking at? <br>
<br></div>Amy<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Sonia O'Connor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk" target="_blank">S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p>If I have got the scale right and this object is c 7 mm in diameter, then the features are too small for even a small species of whale. Also the structure is not like that of mammal bone. Here is a picture of mature cetacean bone.<br>
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<div>Dear Marina,<br>
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Could your object be made of cetacean bone? <br>
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I can't account for the curious pattern along its cross-section (reminds me of tooth/ivory?) but the parallel striae on the rounded outer surface (in your third original attachment) look to me like the relatively porous regions whale bone.<br>
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and p.s. to Sonia O'Connor: wow, cuttlefish shell is beautiful!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Sonia O'Connor <span dir="ltr">
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Dear Marina,<br>
As the lines are part of the material this feature confirms that this is definitely not antler.<br>
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Sonia<br>
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Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of York<br>
Post-doctoral Researcher<br>
Archaeological Sciences<br>
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Hi Sonia,<br>
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Those lines are part of the material, and it's because of them that I<br>
have doubts about the raw material...<br>
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Thank you.<br>
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best<br>
Marina<br>
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Quoting Sonia O'Connor <<a href="mailto:S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk" target="_blank">S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk</a>>:<br>
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> Dear Marina,<br>
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> I'm not sure what it is from these images. I cannot confirm antler.<br>
> Please can you explain the features indicated in the image I have<br>
> sent back to you.<br>
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> All the best,<br>
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> Sonia<br>
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> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow,<br>
> University of York<br>
> Post-doctoral Researcher<br>
> Archaeological Sciences<br>
> Division of AGES,<br>
> University of Bradford<br>
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK<br>
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> tel 01274 23 6498<br>
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> Dear all,<br>
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> We found this round artifact in an upper paleolithic site. I would<br>
> like to hear your opinions about the identification of the raw<br>
> material. The images were taken with a binocular microscope.<br>
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> Marina Évora<br>
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