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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dear Christian,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I would suggest to contact Dr. Gila Kahila-Bar-Gal for aDNA. Better make the direct contact - <a href="mailto:kbgila@gmail.com">kbgila@gmail.com</a>, I highly recommend.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">RivkA</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rivka Rabinovich, Ph.D<br>
National Natural History Collections, Institute of Earth Sciences, Institute of Archaeology,<br>The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, <br>Berman Building, Edmond J. Safra campus, Givat Ram<br>Jerusalem 91904, Israel<br>Tel. 972-2-6585784<br>
Fax. 972-2-6585782</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><a href="mailto:rivkar@mail.huji.ac.il" title="blocked::mailto:rivka@vms.huji.ac.il">rivkar@mail.huji.ac.il</a></span></u><span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christian Gates St-Pierre<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bonetools] DNA Analysis</span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I have contacted Matthew and I would be very interested in exploring with this new technique.</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Christian</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Le mardi 12 novembre 2013 4h32, Steve Ashby <<a href="mailto:steve.ashby@york.ac.uk">steve.ashby@york.ac.uk</a>> a écrit :</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"></span></p>
</div><div><div id="yiv4788441695"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I have just forwarded this message to Matthew. I can support Alice's suggestion, having done multiple projects on medieval worked bone with the ZooMS team. We have a paper online in j a s for 2014 which uses this method to distinguish deer species. </span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Steve</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On 12 Nov 2013 07:45, "Alice Choyke" <<a href="mailto:choyke@ceu.hu" target="_blank">choyke@ceu.hu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Dear Christian,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> I have an alternative suggestion. You are perhaps not aware of the ZoOMS project (Zooarchaeology by Mass Spectrometry) for the taxonomic identification of worked and raw materials. The project is run by Matthew Collins (<a href="mailto:matthew.collins@york.ac.uk" target="_blank">matthew.collins@york.ac.uk</a>) at York University (We gave them Neolithic bone beads to look at). The study is still early days so it is still not possible to differentiate between moose and red deer or cattle or aurochs. however, it is absolutely non-destructive involving careful heating of the bone object in a water solution. They use the water to examine peptides from the bone collagen. It is also much cheaper than DNA. Here is one reference I can think of but I know they have others in JAS.</span></p>
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</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Collins, M., Buckley, M., Grundy, H. H., Thomas-Oates, J., Wilson,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">J. and Van Doorn, N. (2010) ZooMS: the collagen barcode and</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"AGaramondPro-Regular","serif";color:black">fingerprints. </span><i><span style="font-family:"AGaramondPro-Italic","serif";color:black">Spectroscopy Europe </span></i><span style="font-family:"AGaramondPro-Regular","serif";color:black">22 (2), 11–13.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Best,</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Alice</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Christian Gates St-Pierre <<a href="mailto:cgates70@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">cgates70@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Dear collegues,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I am presently preparing a grant submission to the Social Science and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC). This research will present an integrative approach to the study of faunal exploitation by the prehistoric Iroquoians of Northeastern North America, combining zooarchaeology, seasonality, use-wear analysis and technological studies of bone tools. The inclusion of DNA analysis would represent another contributon to this integrative approach. More precisely, I would like to include DNA analysis in order to identifiy the animal species for some of the bone tools that are so heavily worked (transformed) that a species-level identification is impossible using morphological criteria alone.<br>
<br>Hence I would like to know if any of you knows about a DNA analyst that could be interested in participating in such a project. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,</span></p>
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