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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>This musical instrument is still used for traditional songs in central Spain, especially for carols.<br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxomh90SipE<br><br>Rergards,<br>Idoia<br><br><strong><font face="Tahoma">Idoia Grau Sologestoa</font></strong>
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<font face="Tahoma">Dpto. Geografía, Prehistoria y Arqueología</font><br>
<font face="Tahoma">Universidad del País Vasco - Euskal Herriko Unibertsitatea</font><br></blockquote><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:58:16 +0200<br>From: Choyke@ceu.hu<br>To: bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<br>Subject: [Bonetools] Fwd: RE: Roman artefact<br><br>
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<div>Dear Francois,</div>
<div> Thank you for sharing this with us via <span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"><font size="2">José Luis Mingote Calderón. It is absolutely fascinating.</font></span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"><font size="2">Best,</font></span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"><font size="2">Alice</font></span></div>
<div><br><br>>>> François Poplin<poplin@mnhn.fr> 9/18/2013 11:26 AM >>><br></div>
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<span>Dear collegues,<br></span><BR>
<span>I come back with a fine example due to </span><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">José Luis Mingote Calderón</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"></span>. I found it in</font> one of his books, a catalogue.<br>He his greatly to thank !<br><BR>
There is cleary the distal transversal drilling, even if hidden...<br><BR>
You may have every detail below. <BR>
Your's sincerely<br><BR><br><br>-------- Message original --------
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<td>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:36:14 +0200</td></tr>
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<td><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marta.moreno@cchs.csic.es"><marta.moreno@cchs.csic.es></a>, <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cpimenta@igespar.pt"><cpimenta@igespar.pt></a></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;" lang="FR">Cher collègue:</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;" lang="FR">J’étais de vacances. Pardon par le retard.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;" lang="FR">Je vous envoi l’image digitale. L’auteur de la fiche c’est Concha García-Hoz Rosales, et l’œuvre c’est : <i><span style="FONT-STYLE:italic;">Animalario. </span></i></span></font><i><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-STYLE:italic;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">Visiones Humanas sobre mundos animales.</span></font></i><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"> [José Luis Mingote Calderón, Coord. científico] (Madrid: Ministerio de Cultura, 2005), 414 pp. </span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;" lang="FR">Si quelque personne s’intéresse dans le Catalogue, on peut le demander a María Prego, Bibliotecaria, du Museo del Traje. Centro de Investigación del Patrimonio Etnológico et peut être on l’envierait gratuitement.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;" lang="FR">J’envoi copie a deux collègues que travaillent avec ce tipe de matériel.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;" lang="FR">Bien à vous.</span></font></p>
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<font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">José Luis Mingote Calderón</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> <br></span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">Conservador de la Colección de Europa</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> <br></span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">Museo Nacional de Antropología</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> <br></span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">C/ Alfonso XII, 68</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> <br></span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">28014 Madrid (España)</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> <br></span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;">Tlf. 91 550 56 47</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> <br></span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;"><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jluis.mingote@mecd.es">jluis.mingote@mecd.es</a></span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR:black;"> </span></font><BR></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">Cher collègue,<br><br>j'ai fait une première réponse : <br><br>"Une chose très intéressante est que cela se présente comme un projet de cardan, avec deux articulations à 90° (rotation dans deux plans orthogonaux de l'espace). Comme dans le jeu de l'atlas et de l'axis. ",<br><br>et je me suis souvenu entre-temps de la huesera;39949.Madrid de votre catalogue, où se manifeste le forage transversal. J'en ai une photocopie papier, pouvez-vous m'envoyer une image électronique et la référence de votre ouvrage, pour que je fasse connaître cela ?<br><br>Bien à vous.<br><br><br>-------- Message original -------- </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></font></p><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Dear list members,</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Nathalie Meyer sent a request on a peculiar Roman bone artefact (see </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">below).</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">This tool of unknown function has been found a decade ago at the site </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">of the Roman naval base at Altenburg (1st century AD) in the Lower </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Rhine area of Germany (Roman province Germania inferior). Recently a </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">second similar piece has been discovered from the same site. Both </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">are made out of metatarsi of sheep. Taking the context into account, </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">there is a possibility that the tools are related to ships or </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">navigation. Suggestions and comments about comparative items are </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">welcome.</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">The request is also stored at the WBRG mystery Bonetool page:</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"><a href="http://www.wbrg.net/mystery-bonetools" target="_blank">http://www.wbrg.net/mystery-bonetools</a></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Please send comments not only to the list but also to Nathalie at </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"><a href="mailto:Nathalie-Mayer@gmx.de">Nathalie-Mayer@gmx.de</a>.</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Best</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Christian</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">--</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">KNOCHENARBEIT</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Hans Christian Küchelmann</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Diplom-Biologe</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Konsul-Smidt-Straße 30, D-28217 Bremen, Germany</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">tel: +49 - 421 - 61 99 177</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">fax: +49 - 421 - 37 83 540</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">mail: <a href="mailto:info@knochenarbeit.de">info@knochenarbeit.de</a></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">web: <a href="http://www.knochenarbeit.de" target="_blank">http://www.knochenarbeit.de</a></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">web: <a href="http://www.knochenarbeit-shop.de" target="_blank">http://www.knochenarbeit-shop.de</a></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">_______________________________________________</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Bonetools mailing list</span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"><a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"><a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> </span></font></pre></div>
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