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<p>I haven't been able to bring my self to take apart Grandma's bags yet to look at the use wear on the rings, but someday will. Her family was from an unknown community somewhere in Europe that spoke a variety of German before World War 1, so there may not
be such a leap between the leather closures and her cloth bags. </p>
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<p>Re the furthest right tool -- actually, it was sold as a hairpin, but I use it for weaving. I like having the loop on it so I can hang it on the edge of the loom. It doesn't work as well as a hairpin because the design on the end tends to get tangled in
my hair, so it's more of a weaving tool these days. The 4th piece from the right was sold as a naalbinding tool but I haven't learned naalbinding yet.</p>
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<div>There is also a tradition of bone ring closures for leather bags in Hungary. This is usually my first thought when I see such rings in assemblage but WE NEED the use wear studies.
<em>s that a naal-binding needle on the far right of the image?</em></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Griffitts, Janet L - (griffitt)
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<p>Even in the late 1960s my grandmother used to seek out bone rings to close her handwoven bags! Attached is a picture of some historic and modern bone tools, including an old bag of commercially made bone rings I found in Grandma's needlework bag (the same
company now sells "plastic bone rings").</p>
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<div>Another type you might consider that would produce wear is clasps for bags.</div>
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<div>Mikhail:<br>
No specialized use wear analysis was applied, it is more the form of some rings that could be ascribed to archer's thumb rings. There are visible major differences between the upper and bottom of some rings (some are more lustruous) while in one case vertical
discolorations may be due to the use of arrow? I really cannot tell, it is too tricky.<br>
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Yes, some of them are quite fragile, but the majority of the antler ones are quite robust.
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Considering the basket-use, I would expect many more to be found having at least some standarized dimensions.
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Aegean bone rings are extremely rare, with Dispilio's assemblage of ca. 70 objects being unique (while all of which appear in the earliest, middle/late neolithic phase and not on the later phases). Though some "types" could be discerned, it seems that each
ring is quite different from another: some are easily worn in the index, some could be only for children, that is if
<i>all</i> of them were fingerrings, and not simple pendants, hair-adornments or some type of archer's rings.<br>
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<div>As you say, experimentation and use wear analysis cannot always offer a clear result.</div>
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<div>Some more pics are attached<br>
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Dear Fotis,<br>
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the only paper I know dealing with archer's rings is from an archery journal:<br>
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Dekker, Peter (2011): Using the Manchu Thumb Ring. – Society for the Promotion of Traditional Archery Newsletter Autumn 2011<br>
online: <a href="http://mandarinmansion.com/articles/Using%20Manchu%20thumbrings%20Peter%20Dekker.pdf" target="_blank">
http://mandarinmansion.com/<u></u>articles/Using%20Manchu%<u></u>20thumbrings%20Peter%20Dekker.<u></u>pdf</a><br>
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<div>Though for years I had the feeling that some of the bone/antler finger rings from my study material from Neolithic Dispilio (Greece) could be used as archer’s rings, today I am more that certain…<br>
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Do you know any (published) examples of Neolithic archer’s rings or a general biblio?<br>
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<a href="http://visualizingneolithic.com" target="_blank">visualizingneolithic.com</a><br>
<a href="http://theotheracropolis.com" target="_blank">theotheracropolis.com</a><br>
<a href="http://kalaureiainthepresent.org" target="_blank">kalaureiainthepresent.org</a><br>
<a href="http://spondylus.wordpress.com" target="_blank">spondylus.wordpress.com</a><br>
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