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<DIV>Hi Pam, </DIV>
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<DIV>The complete reference is fig 951 and pages 1995-1996 in "<SPAN
style="mso-no-proof: yes">MacGregor, A., Mainman, A. & Rogers, N.S.H., 1999.
<I>Bone, Antler, Ivory and Horn from Anglo-Scandinavian and Medieval York</I>.
London, Published for the York Archaeological Trust by the Council for British
Archaeology." (the York bone working fascicule 17/12). The dimensions for the
piece are listed under the catalogue (p. 2043) as L88.9mm, W40.9mm, T9.1mm.
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<DIV><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes">I am afraid I have not studied this piece
personally, so I am only going on the details from the book and I cannot
answer your other questions. The description in the fascicule was
originally written by Dr Dominic Tweddle. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes">Regards,</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes">David Constantine</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bonetools] decorated York antler</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi David</DIV>
<DIV>What's the scale on this drawing/antler? </DIV>
<DIV>There appear to be 3? openings into the antler at the base. One circular
opening on the prox end which connects with cavity and 2nd oval opening, and a
possible 3rd, irregular opening. What are their dimensions and the nature of the
3rd? Are there any other openings?How far does the proximal cavity extend? Are
there wear marks at the two points? Elsewhere? Publication/refs?</DIV>
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<DIV>cheers</DIV>
<DIV>Pam</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">Pamela J
Cross<BR>PhD researcher, Bioarchaeology <BR>Archaeological Sciences, University
of Bradford, BD7 1DP UK<BR>p.j.cross (at) student.bradford.ac.uk / pajx (at)
aol.com<BR>http://www.barc.brad.ac.uk/resstud_Cross.php<BR><A
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<DIV>In a message dated 27/12/2012 10:09:19 GMT Standard Time,
dkconstantine@btinternet.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Hello Marloes, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Merry Christmas to you as well.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>There is a piece of decorated antler from York
that has been tentatively suggested as being a lucet but not convincingly,
however almost the entire antler is decorated (see attached L001). It is dated
to late 9th-early 10th C. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>I tried working some antler that I pretty
certain was from the late 19th C (a plaque mounted frontlet that had a little
label with the date of the kill). It was rather flaky on the surface, but
after soaking for a few days it was fine to work with once the loose surface
had been rasped away. Suitability for different projects would depend on the
article being made I think. The antler seemed to be more brittle
than modern antler and I wouldn't have recommended it for anything where
stress would be placed upon the finished item e.g. comb teeth.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Best Wishes, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>David Constantine</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:45 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Bonetools] decorated antler</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Dear list-members,<BR> <BR>I hope everyone has had a nice
christmas!<BR> <BR>I have a few questions on antler and hope you can help
me or share your opinion.<BR> <BR>Does anyone know of examples
of decorated antler from the medieval period (especially 10th-12th
centuries, but other examples are welcome too). I don't mean worked antler,
but a complete antler that has been decorated. <BR> <BR>A second
question, do you think it is possible to work antler that is 100 or 150 years
old?<BR> <BR>Thanks a lot and best
wishes,<BR> <BR>Marloes<BR> <BR> <BR></DIV>
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