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Dear all<BR>
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Have someone references to whistle prepared on artyodactila phallanx? We had found an impressive ammount of them (picture attached) in two site from Inka period (1476-1541 b.C.) in Chile, using bi-perforated 2nd Phallanx of American camelidae (<I>Lama sp.</I>).<BR>
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I had found some references to this perforated phallanx interpreted both as pendants or whistles in european Upper Paleolithic, but none in south american or even american contexts. <BR>
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Best wishes<BR>
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Date: 15 Jul 2012 12:23:49 +0100
From: "Dr C.M. Hills" <<A HREF="mailto:ch35@cam.ac.uk">ch35@cam.ac.uk</A>>
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Ring and dot tools
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A recent brief paper on an Iron Age Scottish artefact with ring and dot
decoration analyses the black pigment set into the rings and also discusses
manufacture- as well as meaning. Maxwell, Evans and Edwars, "MatterReality:
the use of scientific method for interpreting the materilalities of an Iron
Age antler drum. In: Archaeological Review from Cambridge Vol 27.1 April
2012 ed Katie Hall and Danika Parikh. Catherine Hills On Jul 14 2012,
Katherine M. Moore wrote:
>Hi David: In an earlier discussion, I asked about this issue as well.
>I was sent the following reference that may be of interest from a
>general perspective (but not the time period or place!):
>
>
>Tomenchuk, John and Peter L. Storck
>1997 Two Newly Recognized Paleoindian Tool Types: Single- and
>Double-Scribe Compass Gravers and Coring Gravers. American Antiquity
>62(3):508-522.
>
>
>In addition, Monica Tielens, a professional bone tool replicator,
>offered this note:
>
>When I started with bone carving I used the one hand tool with a metal
>fork and I turned it round. But if you look at all the originals this
>is not the way our ancestors did it. Nowadays I use a handdrill with a
>3 fork metaltool specialy made by a blacksmith. And although I am not
>satisfied yet the result is much better than before.
>
>
>
>Good luck,
>Kate Moore
>
>Quoting David Constantine <<A HREF="mailto:dkconstantine@btinternet.com">dkconstantine@btinternet.com</A>>:
>
>> I am currently researching Early Medieval bone working and despite
>> the prevalence of Ring-and-dot motifs on artefacts, I can find only
>> two examples of the tools themselves having been found (Stare Mesto
>> and Levy Hradec, both in MacGregor "Bone, Antler, Ivory and Horn")
>> and would like to know if anyone has come across similar tools
>> anywhere between about 500-1100AD.
>>
>> David Constantine
>> (no Phd or anything I am afraid, just 12 years experience preparing
>> skeletons and making bone artefacts)
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:27:56 +0200
From: Christian Kuechelmann <<A HREF="mailto:info@knochenarbeit.de">info@knochenarbeit.de</A>>
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] new article
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Dear Selena,
I am interested in your paper too. Do you put it up the WBRG-reference
database yourself?
Best Christian.
P.S.: Thanks for the Manojlevic data. I get back to you when I have
added them to the bone skates database.
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Zitat von Selena Vitezovic <<A HREF="mailto:selenavitezovic@gmail.com">selenavitezovic@gmail.com</A>>:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> It is my great pleasure to share with you my latest article on the bone
> industry from the Iron Gates Mesolithic site, Kula.
> The article is published with Before farming
> <A HREF="http://www.waspress.co.uk/journals/beforefarming/journal_20113/abstracts/index.php">http://www.waspress.co.uk/journals/beforefarming/journal_20113/abstracts/index.php</A>
> If you do not have access to it, I'd be more than happy to email it to you.
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> best regards, Selena Vitezovi?
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:09:05 +0100
From: "David Constantine" <<A HREF="mailto:dkconstantine@btinternet.com">dkconstantine@btinternet.com</A>>
To: "antler. ivory and horn. Mailing list for archaeologists of the
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Ring and dot tools
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Thanks to everyone for the replies so far. Just a bit of clarification about what I am looking for as I maybe didn't make it very clear. The Ring and dot patterns are made with a 3 (or more for concentric circles) pronged tool, two of which have been found from Early Med contexts in the Czech Republic, I am specifically looking for any evidence of other metal ring and dot tools from the Early Med in Europe.
@Pam - I replicate and demonstrate making replica Early Medieval artefacts of bone, antler and horn. So I have processed quite a few bones and skeletons for that, and I also supply institutions and individuals with skeletons as well through my father's business (Bodies to Bones).
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Ring and dot tools
Hi David (again)
the comment about prep'ing skeletons and making bone artefacts was intriguing. What sort of preping, skel's, artefacts? The zooarch in me is very interested!
cheers
pam
In a message dated 14/07/2012 08:27:41 GMT Daylight Time, <A HREF="mailto:dkconstantine@btinternet.com">dkconstantine@btinternet.com</A> writes:
I am currently researching Early Medieval bone working and despite the prevalence of Ring-and-dot motifs on artefacts, I can find only two examples of the tools themselves having been found (Stare Mesto and Levy Hradec, both in MacGregor "Bone, Antler, Ivory and Horn") and would like to know if anyone has come across similar tools anywhere between about 500-1100AD.
David Constantine
(no Phd or anything I am afraid, just 12 years experience preparing skeletons and making bone artefacts)
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