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<DIV>Yes - well I got the idea directly from bone objects on display in the museum at Whitby so apparently not all colleagues in Britian have gotten the message - or the displays haven't been touched since 1960!</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
<DIV>Alice<BR><BR>>>> "trzaska@lineone.net" <trzaska@lineone.net> 6/13/2012 10:29 AM >>><BR>Hello Alice,<BR><BR>I ought to point out that we invented the idea of the parchment pricker in England around 1990, <BR>but we have also now abandoned it ! The objects that were thought to be parchment prickers are now <BR>regarded as styli, and I suspect the German object is also a stylus, for use with a wax tablet. <BR>Small text on styli enclosed,<BR><BR><BR><BR>Ian Riddler<BR><BR><BR><BR>>----Original Message----<BR><BR>>From: choyke@ceu.hu<BR><BR>>Date: 12/06/2012 14:03 <BR><BR>>To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of<BR><BR>>object and waste of bone,<BR><BR>>antler. ivory and horn."<bonetools@listserv.niif.hu><BR><BR>>Subj: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<BR><BR>><BR><BR>>It certainly is the right size and shae for the objects used as parchment<BR><BR>>prickers for laying out manuscripts. Is the idea of the excavator that<BR><BR>>this tool would be used on a wax tablet for scores?<BR><BR>><BR><BR>>Alice<BR><BR>><BR><BR>>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<BR><BR>>marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com> wrote:<BR><BR>><BR><BR>>> Dear all,<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> Thank you for your comments. I have received some pictures from another<BR><BR>>> viewpoint.<BR><BR>>> The excavator thinks it could be writing equipment for keeping scores for<BR><BR>>> example.<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> The date is uncertain, but late medieval. The context is the court of a<BR><BR>>> castle.<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> With best wishes,<BR><BR>>> Marloes<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> ------------------------------<BR><BR>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:14:47 +0200<BR><BR>>> From: choyke@ceu.hu<BR><BR>>> To: bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> Marloes - is there any kind of provenience or date on that object?<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> A.<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Etan Ayalon <etana@eretzmuseum.org.il>wrote:<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> **<BR><BR>>> Perhaps it's too thick and short to be a [hair pin]? possibly a stylus? As<BR><BR>>> for the dice, keep in mind their connection to *luck*, so why not carve<BR><BR>>> it on an object, like a *hamsa *(hand palm) and many other symbols?<BR><BR>>> Etan<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> ------------------------------<BR><BR>>> *From:* bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu [mailto:<BR><BR>>> bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Alice Choyke<BR><BR>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 11:35 PM<BR><BR>>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study<BR><BR>>> ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.<BR><BR>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> That is one of the wierdest things I have ever seen.<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> Alice<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<BR><BR>>> marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com> wrote:<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> Dear all,<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> A question from a German colleague.<BR><BR>>> This object is 6,6 cm long, diameter of the shaft is 0,4 cm. The dice are<BR><BR>>> circa 0,6 x 0,7 cm.<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> Has anyone of you seen such a piece before, or has any other information?<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> With best wishes,<BR><BR>>> Marloes<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR><BR>>> Bonetools mailing list<BR><BR>>> Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<BR><BR>>> <A href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</A><BR>>><BR><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ______________________________________________________________________<BR>>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.<BR>>> For more information please visit <A href="http://www.symanteccloud.com">http://www.symanteccloud.com</A><BR>>> <BR>______________________________________________________________________<BR><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>>> Bonetools <BR>mailing list<BR><BR>>> Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<BR><BR>>> <A href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</A><BR>>><BR><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________ Bonetools mailing list<BR>>> Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<BR>>> <A href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</A><BR>>><BR><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Bonetools mailing list<BR>>> Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<BR>>> <A href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</A><BR>>><BR><BR>>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>Bonetools mailing list<BR>>Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<BR>><A href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</A><BR>><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>