<div>Dear Monica and kate,</div><div> My first instinct was also to suggest use of a bow-drill to make the circle and dot with a three pronged bit but then I remembered the interesting problem that aside from cold hammered gold and copper there was not real metallurgy in the americas prior to the advent of europeans. I would ask Kate about obsidian or chalcedney triple pointed objects. is that even a realistic possibility?</div>
<div> </div><div>Alice<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:26 AM, T + M Tielens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@bikkelenbeen.nl" target="_blank">info@bikkelenbeen.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><div>Hello Kate,</div>
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<div>I use it for the decorations on my bone articles. When I started with bone carving I used the one hand tool with a metal fork and I turned it round. But if you look at all the originals this is not the way our ancestors did it. Nowadays I use a handdrill with a 3 fork metaltool specialy made by a blacksmith. And although I am not satisfatied yet the result is much better than before.</div>
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<div>Greetings</div>
<div>Monica Tielens</div>
<div>Bikkel en Been<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/11 Katherine M. Moore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmmoore@sas.upenn.edu" target="_blank">kmmoore@sas.upenn.edu</a>></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Dear bone tool group colleagues:<br><br>My eye was caught by the dot/circle motifs on that hair pin, and I address the list with a few basic questions about this motif, based on their occasional appearance on "fancy" pieces in Formative (neolithic) Bolivia.<br>
<br>What tools and techniques are necessary to produce this effect? It is a one-step or two-step procedure to produce the dot and the circle together?<br><br>I have seen reference to producing the circle with a fine, stiff reed or plant stem and abrasive. Does this seem reasonable?<br>
<br>Does decoration with dot-and-circle seem like a more demanding process than free-hand engraving or less demanding of skill and training?<br><br>There is spectacular free-hand engraving on bone for thousands of years in the New World, but dot-and-circle also appears. I don't have the experience to judge the implications for the production of the craft, much less what the social implications might be in choosing a dot-and-circle decoration over a hatched band or a little monkey or jaguar.<br>
<br>Thanks for your insights,<br><br>best,<br><br>Kate Moore<br><br><br><br>Quoting Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<a href="mailto:marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marloesrijkelijkhuizen@<u></u>hotmail.com</a>>:<br>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><br>Dear all,<br><br>A question from a German colleague.<br>
This object is 6,6 cm long, diameter of the shaft is 0,4 cm. The dice are circa 0,6 x 0,7 cm.<br>
<br>Has anyone of you seen such a piece before, or has any other information?<br><br>With best wishes,<br>Marloes<br></blockquote><br><br><br>Zooarchaeology Laboratory<br>University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology<br>
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