<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Do let me know what it turns out be. <div>Never seen Walrus Ivory like that, but it would be an elegant solution<br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 6 Jun 2012, at 15:32, Günther Karl Kunst wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Sonia, Alice and Salima,<br>thank you so much for suggestions and observations. Walrus would be an option, it is the far north of Austria (bordering to the "Czech Canada"). Better images are being made, I will communicate your ideas to the excavator.<br>all the best<br>Karl<br><br>S O'Connor schrieb:<br><blockquote type="cite">Dear Karl,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It is difficult to see enough detail from these images but there is a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">possibility they this is walrus ivory - there seems to be a distinction<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">between featureless material and an area with a whorled structure. Antler<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pedicle can also show a similar combination of features but to carry this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">forward I would need to see better images of these different areas and the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">junction between them at higher magnification (with a scale if you can).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The colour could be deliberate staining or due to the burial environment. I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">have had some walrus ivory playing pieces that look like dark amber.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sonia<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">York<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Post-doctoral Research Fellow<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archaeological Sciences<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Division of AGES,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">University of Bradford<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">fax 01274 23 5210<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Günther Karl Kunst<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: 04 June 2012 11:32<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [Bonetools] cross_bone_?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Der Alice and all!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Unfortunately, this is not meant as an immediate reponse concerning a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">bonetool of the month, because the circumstances (stray find), property<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">issues and identity (material) are still too vague. It was found by a local<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">collector in the vicinity of a former castle in a (nowadays) remote area of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">northern Lower Austria. It was shown to me by Sabine Felgenhauer from the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">prehistoric department who carries out excavations in the castle area<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(pottery of High Medieval - 11th-13th c). The oblong object, with a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">cross-engraving on both sides, feels "warm" haptically and has been worked<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(file, saw, ...) all over its surface, and I think/hope it is an animal<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">tissue, but not quite sure about that. No original surface left, and what is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the meaning of the "structural lines"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(dentine-ivory, antler?)? Excavator put forward ideas about a gaming<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">piece/chessman. I attach several pictures I took under not quite ideal<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">cicrumstances.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Any suggestions welcome!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">all the best<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Karl<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bonetools mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Bonetools mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>