<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Thanks for your contribution, Kate.<br>If you have more informations (like photos or papers), I'm very interested ! The ritual explanatinon seem to be frequently used to explain function of these objects but reality appears more complicated and varied. That's effectively a good thing to see all these different examples.<br>Best regards<br><br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail : benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De :</span></b>
Katherine M. Moore <kmmoore@sas.upenn.edu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> bonetools@listserv.niif.hu<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mar 2 août 2011, 18h 22min 05s<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] Re : Re : Re : Re : Re : Re : protohistoric object<br></font><br>To extend this endeavor, I have multiple cases of worked astralguli from Gonur depe in Turkemenistan (Bronze age ca 2000 B.C), including a cache (of examples including both sheep and pig). Ritual? Utilitarian?<br><br>It's wonderful to see all these examples come together.<br><br>best,<br><br>Kate Moore<br><br>Quoting Selena Vitezovic <<a ymailto="mailto:selenavitezovic@gmail.com" href="mailto:selenavitezovic@gmail.com">selenavitezovic@gmail.com</a>>:<br><br>> Hello everyone,<br>> <br>> I think Benjamin should organize a round table dedicated to the use of<br>> astragals in
prehistoric Europe, as it seems they occur everywhere with<br>> endless variety in modes of use.<br>> <br>> Here is my contribution to the topic, astragals from two sites in Serbia.<br>> Those labeled *dvs* are from Divostin, central Serbia, Vin?a culture (Late<br>> Neolithic / Early Aeneolithic) and those labeled *bb* are from Bubanj,<br>> eastern Serbia, Bubanj culture (Aeneolithic).<br>> My hypothesis is that both types were used on soft, organic materials, as<br>> polish is very intense. I would expect more regular, deeper lines and<br>> incisions if they have been used on pottery. Oh, yes, those from Divostin<br>> are sheep astragals, and from Bubanj one is from red deer, the other from<br>> pig.<br>> <br>> Otherwise, Benjamin, I am really looking forward to see results of your<br>> experiments, hope they will be sucessful.<br>> <br>> best regards, selena<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 27 July
2011 12:11, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin <<a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> Cher monsieur Poplin.<br>>> Je n'ai pas le détail du travail du bronze sur le site, mais s'il est une<br>>> activité artisanale bien représentée, c'est bien la métallurgie. Voila<br>>> pourquoi nous tenons tant à expérimenter le travail de ce matériau. Nous<br>>> serions bien sur très intéressé par vos écrits ! J'ai transmis votre mail à<br>>> Mlle Nadia Cavanhié, archéozoologue en charge de l'étude de ce matériel, qui<br>>> saura mieux que moi répondre à vos questions.<br>>> Bien à vous<br>>> <br>>> Dear M. Poplin<br>>> I have no precise idea about the bronze working on the site, but metal<br>>> industry is a very frequent crafting activity. That's why we're
wanting so<br>>> much experiment the work of this material with phalanges. We are so very<br>>> interested about your papers!<br>>> I passed on your e-mail to Miss Nadia Cavanhié, zooarchaeologist who<br>>> studying this material. She will know better that I to answer your<br>>> questions.<br>>> <br>>> Best regards<br>>> <br>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>> PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>> <br>>> <br>>> ------------------------------<br>>> *De :* François Poplin <<a ymailto="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr" href="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr">poplin@mnhn.fr</a>><br>>> *À :* "Mailing list for archaeologists of the
research group for the study<br>>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><br>>> *Envoyé le :* Mer 27 juillet 2011, 11h 04min 52s<br>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Re : Re : Re : Re : Re : protohistoric object<br>>> <br>>> Cher Monsieur,<br>>> <br>>> je vois que cela commence à parler de métal. Je voulais justement vous<br>>> demander ce que vous avez comme objets de bronze ; avez-vous des bandeaux<br>>> fins, par exemple ? des lames ? Et avez-vous des signes manifestes du<br>>> travail du bronze (scories, etc.) ?<br>>> <br>>> D'autre part combien avez-vous de ces phalanges ? et des deux sortes,<br>>> c'est-à-dire combien de la "gauche" et combien de la "droite" du plan de<br>>> symétrie du pied ? et en avez-vous
trouvé à l'état groupé ?<br>>> <br>>> J'ai écrit sur le fourbissages des métaux - je peux vous envoyer cela par<br>>> la poste ; à quelle adresse ?<br>>> <br>>> Bien à vous.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> Le 27/07/2011 10:46, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin a écrit :<br>>> <br>>> Thank you Jackie, very interesting experiments ! I'll send you the results<br>>> of our metal experiment. I agree with you about the hight possibilities of<br>>> using these kind of pieces like tool and not only like gaming pieces !<br>>> About the Ethan hypothesis (smoothing and burnishing plaster on walls),<br>>> why not, but the phalanges are small (some come from young animals) and some<br>>> of them present a very small active part... Maybe a very precise work ? And<br>>> about grinding small amounts of delicate materials like spices, pigments or<br>>> medicines, there
isn't a lot of indications in favour of these hypothesis.<br>>> There's no traces (micro or macroscopic) of pigments (and the conservation<br>>> of some objetcs is quite good) and all the objects present same oblique<br>>> striations, all in the same direction.<br>>> <br>>> Thanks for all these ideas and hypothesis !<br>>> <br>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>> PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>> <br>>> <br>>> ------------------------------<br>>> *De :* Etan Ayalon <<a ymailto="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il" href="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il">etana@eretzmuseum.org.il</a>> <<a
ymailto="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il" href="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il">etana@eretzmuseum.org.il</a>><br>>> *À :* "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for thestudy<br>>> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><br>>> *Envoyé le :* Dim 24 juillet 2011, 8h 06min 43s<br>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Re : Re : Re : Re : protohistoric object<br>>> <br>>> Dear all,<br>>> Another possibility of using straight sided phalanges on wet material<br>>> without bothering on the problem of the rounded shape of pottery vessels:<br>>> smoothing and burnishing plaster on walls! This was done on walls
of<br>>> dwelling houses as well as of installations (i.e., connected with liquids),<br>>> on lime-white plaster as well as on muddy-brown plaster, etc. We are all<br>>> aware of the beautiful photos from Africa showing women coating their houses<br>>> with mud and colors and burnishing them.<br>>> <br>>> And how about grinding small amounts of delicate materials like spices,<br>>> pigments, medicines etc.?<br>>> Etan Ayalon<br>>> <br>>> ------------------------------<br>>> *From:* <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a> [<br>>> mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a><<a ymailto="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu"
href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>>]<br>>> *On Behalf Of *MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin<br>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:03 PM<br>>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study<br>>> ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.<br>>> *Subject:* [Bonetools] Re : Re : Re : Re : protohistoric object<br>>> <br>>> Hello Jackie, hello Alice<br>>> <br>>> Wonderful ! Thank you for the contact, Alice, and, yes, I would like some<br>>> photos of phalanges from Szazhalombatta please, to compare with my objects.<br>>> Jackie, this is very interesting and, please, I would like also a copy of<br>>> your article and poster, of course.<br>>> We tought these objects could be ceramic smoothers because of the oblique<br>>> striations of the straight face, and the lack of characteristic traces
of<br>>> hide or leather working (or other smooth raw material), with very bright<br>>> polish. The result of alternative smooth of inside and outside pots is<br>>> interesting ! We thought also to experiment the work of metal with a smith<br>>> and use these objects like smoothers or during quenching and tempering phase<br>>> of blade production. I'll could share the results of this experiment, as Eva<br>>> said in a previous message.<br>>> Thank you for all these informations !<br>>> <br>>> All the best<br>>> <br>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>> PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>> <br>>> <br>>>
------------------------------<br>>> *De :* jacqueline meier <<a ymailto="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com" href="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com">jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com</a>><<a ymailto="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com" href="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com">jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com</a>><br>>> *À :* Alice Choyke <<a ymailto="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu" href="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu">h13017cho@iif.hu</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu" href="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu">h13017cho@iif.hu</a>><br>>> *Cc :* "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the<br>>> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu"
href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><br>>> *Envoyé le :* Ven 22 juillet 2011, 21h 37min 40s<br>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Re : Re : Re : protohistoric object<br>>> <br>>> Hello,<br>>> <br>>> Alice Choyke forwarded me this thread. At the last ICAZ meeting, I<br>>> presented a poster on an experiment that investigated some astragali<br>>> artifacts that I studied for my Master's thesis, thanks to Alice. I tried<br>>> using astragali to work wet and dry clay and hide and compared the resulting<br>>> macro and microwear to wear on flattened astragali artifacts from the<br>>> Middle Bronze Age sites of Zagyvapálfalva-Homokbanya and Kisterenye-Hársas<br>>> in Hungary. If my results would be of interest to anyone, please email me<br>>> and I will send you a copy of the poster and my submitted article for the<br>>> ICAZ
volume.<br>>> <br>>> In my study, the lack of contextual information was very limiting, but I<br>>> made several interesting conclusions about the potential of using unmodified<br>>> astragali as tools. First, it is very easy to use goat astragali to<br>>> hand-burnish pottery and they are very effective burnishers. Second, the<br>>> outermost ridges of the medial and lateral bone sides were ground down to a<br>>> flat surface after 120 minutes of use. Lastly, microwear developed that was<br>>> very similar to that which was present on the bone artifacts: oblique<br>>> striations and some micropitting developed. I held the astragali as was<br>>> indicated by the handling polish on the artifacts and made clay that was<br>>> comparable to the formula and particle size as clay from the site, thus I am<br>>> confident in concluding that these flattened astragali were
*potentially*used for burnishing leather-hard ceramic. Again, context limits this<br>>> conclusion, but the wear was assessed with backscatter imaging and looks<br>>> very similar.<br>>> <br>>> Several key points may be relevant to this thread. One is that astragali<br>>> do not have to be pre-flattened to burnish ceramic. Any sharp or raised<br>>> areas are quickly removed by the gritty clay. Second, I used astragali to<br>>> smooth the inside and outside of round pots and the astragali were flattened<br>>> straight. This was not intentionally done, in fact I did not notice it until<br>>> compared the profiles of these astragali with those used to experimentally<br>>> work hide.<br>>> <br>>> Again, I will send this article and poster to anyone who requests a copy.<br>>> I look forward to reading about similar experiments with astragali and<br>>>
phalanges.<br>>> <br>>> All the best,<br>>> Jackie Meier<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:jacqueline.meier@uconn.edu" href="mailto:jacqueline.meier@uconn.edu">jacqueline.meier@uconn.edu</a><br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Alice Choyke <<a ymailto="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu" href="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu">h13017cho@iif.hu</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>>> If you wish I can also send you plentiful photos of phalanges from<br>>>> Szazhalombatta as well. there are many of these objects from the MBA. You<br>>>> should also contact Jacquie Meier (<a ymailto="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com" href="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com">jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com</a>) who<<a ymailto="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com" href="mailto:jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com">jacqueline.s.meier@gmail.com</a>%29+who>did some
experiments with these objects.<br>>>> <br>>>> Best,<br>>>> Alice<br>>>> <br>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:35 AM, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin <<br>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>>>> <br>>>>> Hello Selena, hello Alice<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Marianne Christensen send to me your article, Alice, about<br>>>>> Jászdózsa?Kápolnahalom and there is photo with worked phalanges. We'll begin<br>>>>> experiments in August, with potter and smith, maybe they'll bring some<br>>>>> indications... One of the problem of my object is the context is unclear,<br>>>>> most of them was found in wells full of rubbish.<br>>>>> Thanks for the abstract reference, Selena, I'll contact the author
!<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Best<br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>>>> PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> ------------------------------<br>>>>> *De :* Alice Choyke <<a ymailto="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu" href="mailto:h13017cho@iif.hu">h13017cho@iif.hu</a>><br>>>>> *À :* "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the<br>>>>> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu"
href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><br>>>>> *Envoyé le :* Ven 22 juillet 2011, 10h 17min 18s<br>>>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Re : Re : protohistoric object<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Unless the clay surfaces being smoothed are straight such as the wall of<br>>>>> an oven: I have been struggling with the exact same problem for astragalii<br>>>>> and phalanges of all kinds, especially from the Middle Bronze Age of Hungary<br>>>>> and am not much smarter than I began... Multiple hypotheses need to be tried<br>>>>> out again and and again because sadly there will not be one right answer to<br>>>>> this problem. It is definitely context driven.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Alice<br>>>>> <br>>>>> *De :* Selena Vitezovic <<a ymailto="mailto:selenavitezovic@gmail.com"
href="mailto:selenavitezovic@gmail.com">selenavitezovic@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> *À :* "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the<br>>>>> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><br>>>>> *Envoyé le :* Sam 2 juillet 2011, 19h 10min 35s<br>>>>> <br>>>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Re : protohistoric object<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Hello everyone,<br>>>>> Hello, Benjamin,<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Perhaps a little bit out of time and place - but last year at ICAZ<br>>>>> conference I saw a poster on astragals from Bronze age Hungary with similar<br>>>>> usewear pattern, used probably for clay working.<br>>>>> This is the link for the
abstract, perhaps photos may be found or asked<br>>>>> from author.<br>>>>> <a href="http://alexandriaarchive.org/bonecommons/items/show/1383" target="_blank">http://alexandriaarchive.org/bonecommons/items/show/1383</a><br>>>>> <br>>>>> And I agree with Marloes, they must have been flattened before use. Some<br>>>>> other used astragals, from Balkan Neolithic and Chalcolithic, seemed to have<br>>>>> been flattened before use (probably with sandstone) - although they were<br>>>>> most likely used on soft, organic materials, since they have intense polish.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> best, selena<br>>>>> <br>>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:51 AM, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin <<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:ivrel001@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:ivrel001@yahoo.fr">ivrel001@yahoo.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>>>>> <br>>>>>> Hello Marloes, sorry for the delay, I traveled.<br>>>>>> Good remark... Phalanges internal side are flat but not so flat. I agree<br>>>>>> with you : the (possible) worked surface must be straight and a pottery<br>>>>>> generaly isn't.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Best<br>>>>>> Benjamin<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>>>>> PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>>>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>>>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>>>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>>>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>>
------------------------------<br>>>>>> *De :* Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<a ymailto="mailto:marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com" href="mailto:marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com">marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com</a>><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> *À :* <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>>>>>> *Envoyé le :* Ven 1 juillet 2011, 21h 02min 49s<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Re : protohistoric object<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Hi Benjamin<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> I couldn't see if it was flattened (before use).<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> If used, it should be used for/on something with a flat surface, the<br>>>>>> surface is completely flat. (compare the medieval skates, these were used
on<br>>>>>> ice and have a flat surface, but were sometimes flattened before use). If<br>>>>>> used for pottery the surface wouldn't be straight.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Best, Marloes<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> ------------------------------<br>>>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:35:47 +0100<br>>>>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>>>>>> Subject: [Bonetools] Re : protohistoric object<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> No, it isn't.<br>>>>>> I send photo of another object where you can see more precisely
the<br>>>>>> traces. Use wear area is the result of the use/exploitation of the flatest<br>>>>>> face of the phalanx, maybe with a kind of abrasion technique... The<br>>>>>> mophologic modification of the bone could be various but never very<br>>>>>> important.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Non, il ne s'agit pas de sciage.<br>>>>>> Je joins une photo d'un autre objet sur laquelle on voit plus<br>>>>>> précisément les stigmates. La zone d'usure est le résultat de l'utilisation<br>>>>>> ou de l'exploitation de la face la plus plate de la phalange, peut être en<br>>>>>> utilisant une technique d'abrasion... Ce degré d'usure peut varier mais il<br>>>>>> n'est jamais très important.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>>>>> PhD student TRACES
laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>>>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>>>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>>>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>>>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> ------------------------------<br>>>>>> *De :* François Poplin <<a ymailto="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr" href="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr">poplin@mnhn.fr</a>><br>>>>>> *À :* <a ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>>>>>> *Envoyé le :* Ven 1 juillet 2011, 12h 20min 16s<br>>>>>> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] protohistoric object<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Est-il sûr qu'il ne s'agit pas d'un sciage
?<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Would not be sawing traces ?<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Le 01/07/2011 11:00, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin a écrit :<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Hello !<br>>>>>> Does anybody have an idea about the type or function of this object ?<br>>>>>> It's an young pig phalanx, with use wear traces on the internal face,<br>>>>>> covered by oblique striations. It comes from large protohistoric site(possible marketplace) of Toulouse, in the south of France (II-I° century<br>>>>>> BC). About 20 objects was found, a majority made of pig phalanxes (young or<br>>>>>> not) and only two made of bovid pahlanxes. Use wear is always located on the<br>>>>>> same face, with different use degree and some objetcs are perforated on<br>>>>>> the proximal face. We thought about a kind of
smoother (in relation<br>>>>>> with potery ? metal ?) but objects are realy small and found in various<br>>>>>> contexts (more often in wells full of rubbish).<br>>>>>> Thanks a lot and best regards<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Marquebielle Benjamin<br>>>>>> PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>>>>>> 5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>>>>>> 31000 Toulouse<br>>>>>> tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>>>>>> e-mail : <a ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>> Bonetools mailing <a ymailto="mailto:listBonetools@listserv.niif.huhttps"
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