<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Helle Eva and everybody<br><br>Thanks for your suggestions. Another thing to try ! Actually, there two different traces : the flat side with striations and, only on some objects, the extremities with smooth polish. Good idea to share results of experimentations, if I had the agreement of the director of excavation.<br><br>Best<br><div> </div><span style="font-weight:bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail : benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">De :</span></b> Eva David <eva.david@mae.u-paris10.fr><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <bonetools@listserv.niif.hu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Ven 22 juillet 2011, 11h 02min 59s<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] Re : Re : protohistoric object<br></font><br><base>Hello Benjamin, <div><div>During your experiment, don't forget to use your one-sided perforated phalanx as a damping slipper that could have been employed for stopping a wheel - patin de freinage d'un tour (de potier?) ... Thus you may record two different lustre aspect, the straight side that is active with grind-like aspect (the slipper) and the opposite anatomical face that is shiny-polish-like by the "shoe" (the side that as been
pushed).</div><div>And if you have some results you want to share with the WBRG members, don't forget to send your contribution to our Experiments WBRG WEB page where films, photos and references already are: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8&Itemid=8">http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8&Itemid=8</a></div><div>Wish you nice tests.</div><div>Best, </div><div>éva</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Le 22 juil. 2011 à 09:51, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:times, serif;font-size:12pt;">Hello Marloes, sorry for the delay, I traveled.<br>Good remark... Phalanges internal side are flat but not so flat. I agree with you : the (possible) worked surface
must be straight and a pottery generaly isn't.<br><br>Best<br>Benjamin<br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"> </div><span style="font-weight:bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com">marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">À :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ven 1 juillet 2011, 21h 02min 49s<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Bonetools] Re : protohistoric object<br></font><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;">Hi
Benjamin<br> <br>I couldn't see if it was flattened (before use).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <br>If used, it should be used for/on something with a flat surface, the surface is completely flat. (compare the medieval skates, these were used on ice and have a flat surface, but were sometimes flattened before use). If used for pottery the surface wouldn't be straight.<br> <br>Best, Marloes<br><br> <br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:35:47 +0100<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank"
href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>Subject: [Bonetools] Re : protohistoric object<br><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-size:12pt;font-family:times, serif;">No, it isn't.<br>I send photo of another object where you can see more precisely the traces. Use wear area is the result of the use/exploitation of the flatest face of the phalanx, maybe with a kind of abrasion technique... The mophologic modification of the bone could be various but never very important.<br><br>Non, il ne s'agit pas de sciage.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Je joins une photo d'un autre objet sur laquelle on voit plus précisément les stigmates. La zone d'usure est le résultat de l'utilisation ou de l'exploitation de la face la plus plate de la phalange, peut être en utilisant une technique d'abrasion... Ce degré d'usure peut varier mais il n'est jamais très
important.<br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"> </div><span style="font-weight:bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-size:12pt;font-family:times, serif;"><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-size:12pt;font-family:times, serif;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>François Poplin <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr">poplin@mnhn.fr</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">À :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank" href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ven 1 juillet 2011, 12h 20min 16s<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Bonetools] protohistoric object<br></font><br>Est-il sûr qu'il ne s'agit pas d'un sciage ?<br><br>Would not be sawing traces ?<br><br>Le 01/07/2011 11:00, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin a écrit :<blockquote><div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:times, serif;">Hello !<br>Does anybody have an idea about the type or function of this object ? It's an young<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline;">pig phalanx</span>, with<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline;">use wear traces on the internal face</span>, covered by oblique striations. It comes from large<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline;">protohistoric site</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(possible marketplace) of Toulouse, in the south of France (II-I° century BC). About 20 objects was found, a majority made of pig phalanxes (young or not) and only two made of bovid pahlanxes. Use wear is always located on the same face, with different use degree and some
objetcs are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline;">perforated on the proximal face</span>. We thought about a kind of<span style="text-decoration:underline;">smoother<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>(in relation with potery ? metal ?) but objects are realy small and found in various contexts (more often in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline;">wells</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>full of rubbish).<br>Thanks a lot and best regards<br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"> </div><span style="font-weight:bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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